On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Tristan Gingold <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 20/07/15 20:42, Torsten Meißner wrote:
>
>> I would appreciate if ghdl would be hosted on something public like
>> Github. Two reasons:
>>
>> * nearly every developer I know has an account there, so no need to new
>> registration
>> * They have a useable bug tracker
>> * Their infrastructure is proven
>>
>> I also think, that the project would be more attractive, if it was on an
>> public website like Github
>> and not on a privat hosted website.
>>
>
> Currently ghdl is hosted on sf.net, which is as public as github.
> However sf.net may be less popular than github and its infrastructure
> may be less proven.
>
> I am not very thrilled by moving from sf to github, because ghdl has
> already moved twice in the past.  Too many moves may lost users and
> contributors.
>

I'd just like to add my two cents. sf.net has grown stagnant in terms of
site design and with all the ads it can be confusing even for those of us
that have used it for years and years to get around. github or bitbucket
(the hg equiv of github) are much more clean and easy. They don't include
things like binary hosting or docs hosting, but you can use other things
like readthedocs.org and others for stuff like that.

Just to clarify the story about bundling adware that sf.net that gimp is
mad about (source:
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/anatomy-of-sourceforge-gimp-controversy
):
* GIMP-win got annoyed by all the fake download buttons and decided to
leave sf.net
* They made it very clear to sf.net that they did not want to have anything
to do with adding adware to their downloads
* They left, afterwards sf.net decided to take over their project and start
distributing an adware wrapped version of the GIMP installer, it should be
noted that they are active elsewhere, just not on sf
* GIMP people asked sf.net to remove the installer, they got no response
* After the media furor sf.net finally dropped the GIMP installer with no
comment

Assuming that what GIMP alleges is accurate this is rather scary and due to
this I would fully support moving off of sf.net.

Finally, to what everyone's saying about reliability. As far as I know the
github DDoS resulted in reduced availability for about 3-4 days, not
complete downness of the repos for several days (they're still down on
sf.net). However, as long as we're using a dvcs
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_revision_control> which both hg
and git are, it shouldn't really matter if the main host goes down. Whoever
has the most up to date repo should be able to just push this to some other
host and when the original host comes back up it should be trivial to
update it if the repo used at the other site was the same as what's on the
host and easy enough to merge even if it isn't. If we're still using svn I
would advocate strongly moving to either hg or git.

Alex


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