Thanks for the explanation. I don't imagine it's possible to avoid them all, however could you fix the ones I've highlighted? I guess a workaround would be to change to the American English version? Seems not a good solution.
Another fix would be to leave the mnemonics as they are, and just make it possible to hit the same letter twice to get to the next one. - This works the first time, but it switches which entry is highlighted each time the combination is used. If it were simply consistent each time I'd consider it a non-issue. Can this behaviour be fixed? Thanks. -C On 17 Dec 2016 4:38 am, "Jehan Pagès" <jehan.marmott...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:10 AM, C R <caj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Alex. > > > > And I'm still getting overlaping hotkeys with: > > Ok so it seems you are talking of something different from what > Alexandre linked. This commit was about duplicate shortcuts. You are > talking about what GTK+ calls "mnemonics", which is this underlined > character on menu items or buttons. This commit did indeed nothing > related to mnemonics. > > I don't really know what is the deal with mnemonics because that's a > real mess by design. Indeed having duplicated mnemonics is hard to > check since a same action can be used in various contexts (different > menus, dialogs…). In one case, it may be fine, but in others, it > won't. > > I think I read someone saying that maybe GTK+ would be getting away > from mnemonics in the long run but I can't find any actual reference > to this (apart from the fact that it is not possible to see them by > default in GTK+3 apparently, without pressing Alt). So I don't know. > > > s - Hue/Saturation, Colourise > > That's another case which shows the problem with mnemonics: by > default, the label is "Colori_ze" (with a mnemonic on 'z'), but the > translator changed it to 's' (obviously you are using UK English). So > there is no conflicts in US English, but there is one in UK English. > This is too much of a burden on translators to be able to change > mnemonics (so should they be expected to check every place where they > are used, as well as developers?). > > Anyway I don't really have good answers for you. You can try and open > bug reports for the conflicts you find and we'll try to fix them. But > we likely won't be 100% sure that we won't create new mnemonics > conflicts somewhere else by fixing them in this specific menu. And the > ones on translated strings will be even more annoying. Maybe we should > ask translators to not change mnemonics even when the translation does > not have the letter? (they would add a "(z)" at the end of the string. > That's what they do in languages with indirect input like Japanese, > though it could feel like a stepback for a lang such as UK English) > > Jehan > > > e - Desaturate, Color Temperature > > x - Exposure, Retinex > > > > I'm running the gimp-edge repo. > > The current one is: > > gimp 2.9.5~58-0y0~ppa~9f15ad6 > > > > It also seems there is a bug that forces the user to press the over > > arrow to access the hotkeys for sub-menus. > > For example, the key combination alt+c > e > d should call up the > > desaturate dialog, but the user must use this combination instead: > > alt+c > e > right arrow > d. > > > > Is this possibly a GTK bug? > > All the styling on the new menus looks great btw. > > > > Thanks. > > -C > > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine > > <alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:46 AM, C R wrote: > >>> The Colour menu has again become a mess of conflicting hotkeys. > >>> Can someone reassign/resolve them? > >>> > >>> Probably a good idea to get rid of some of the duplicate functions > >>> like "drop shadow" and the proliferation of duplicate desaturate > >>> actions. :) > >> > >> Done three weeks ago: > >> > >> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/commit/?id= > 2a232398c4ad5a3108b5ad75be7bc8ef5d98e6fb > >> > >> Alex > >> _______________________________________________ > >> gimp-developer-list mailing list > >> List address: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org > >> List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp- > developer-list > >> List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list > > _______________________________________________ > > gimp-developer-list mailing list > > List address: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org > > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp- > developer-list > > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list > > > > -- > ZeMarmot open animation film > http://film.zemarmot.net > Patreon: https://patreon.com/zemarmot > Tipeee: https://www.tipeee.com/zemarmot > _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
