On 10/2/20 5:57 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > You need to really download them and view them in the gimp and examine > the exif because on the original images coming out of the camera, SOME > applications, like new firefox, read the camera's orientation data > and display accordingly. Some applications do not. The solution is > to actually rotate the actual image. > > Actually, if I was going to modernize this, there would be 2 options, > one to just rotate by chaning the exif data, and one to physically > rotate the image.
Thanks for the additional information (this message and the other message). I actually DID download both images and I opened them in GIMP 2.10.20 on Ubuntu 20.04 Linux. I opened the original image in Firefox and it was rotated by 90-degress counter-clockwise, so it appeared like this: https://imgur.com/a/S5RRJE8 Of course, my highlighting in red didn't appear. :) So, then I opened the original photo in GIMP and I was asked if I wanted to rotate the photo or not, as shown here: https://imgur.com/a/eICgy7a When I opened the rotated photo you posted the link to, the "After" photo, GIMP prompted me to rotate the photo, as shown here: https://imgur.com/kozuYXt Are you getting the same prompts from GIMP, when you open the photos? If so, which option do you choose? Anyway, when I open the original photo in GIMP and choose "rotate", I made NO other changes and simply exported the rotated image. Then, I opened that image in Firefox and it appeared correct: https://imgur.com/a/tsgEiGF I haven't touched ANY EXIF settings at all and when exporting from GIMP, I used the export defaults, for JPEG, which included EXIF, XMP, and IPTC information being saved with the file. I think I understand your issue with the image getting rotated unexpectedly, but I'm not necessarily sure GIMP is at fault, at least not based on the steps I followed. When you load the images, are you getting different results? Which version of GIMP are you using and on which operating system? Thanks! Peace... Tom > > > On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 08:53:43PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 05:30:48PM -0700, Tom via gimp-user-list wrote: >>> On 10/2/20 5:10 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >>>> On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 12:23:18AM +0200, Ofnuts wrote: >>>>> On 02/10/2020 23:33, Ruben Safir wrote: >>>>>>> But AFAIK when Gimp edits an image, it removes the Exif Orientation >>>>>>> flag, so the image should be displayed with the default orientation, >>>>>> Whatever it is doing it is doing it 100% wrong 100% of the time and I >>>>>> have to go into the file with VIM and remove the exif. >>>>> No such problem for me, and again, there are free tools to remove EXIF >>>>> if necessary, for instance with ExifTool: >>>>> >>>>> exiftool -all= {file} >>>>> >>>> Or it can just be done correctly in the primary image manipulation tool, >>>> within the Gimp >>>> >>>>>> And somehow it is putting my name in there. Is that really necessary as >>>>>> if I don't have enough things tracking me the universe. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think it is coming from my Cannon Camera. >>>>> Either your camera or you have entered a default comment. Create an >>>>> image from scratch with Gimp and see if it contains your name... >>>>> >>>>>> If you want, I can demonstrate this. Remove the EXIF and it orients >>>>>> correctly. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I just fixed >>>>>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com/brooklyn/images/2020_09_fishing/bike.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> by MANUALLY removeing the EXIF data from near top of the file. >>>>>> It was correct in the GIMP and sideway in most of the rest of the >>>>>> world..most importantly in Firefox et al >>>>> You are not demonstrating anything, we need the before and after images. >>>>> >>>> I am aware of that. I can demostrate it easily enough >>>> >>>> Before => >>>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com/brooklyn/images/2020_09_fishing/IMG_4577.JPG >>>> >>>> After => >>>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com/brooklyn/images/2020_09_fishing/IMG_4577.2.JPG >>>> >>>> the EXIF needs to be fixed.. >>> Thanks for posting the sample images. Please excuse me but I don't >>> understand what the problem is. Is it the "After" image is _not_ >>> supposed to appear 90-degrees rotated? When I view the "After" >>> image in Firefox (and Opera), it appears rotated 90-degrees. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >> >> The original is 90° tilted as I tilted the camera to get a verticle >> image >> >> >> It opens in the gimp sideways, as it should since I took the pic that >> way. >> >> The "after pic" is rotated to the correct position. >> ... or it should be. >> >> It is in the GIMP >> >> It exif is pointing it to the incorrect orientation now. >> This is an example of tech trying to make things "simple" >> and they are not simple. They are broken. >> >> When you rotation the image the exif that is saved needs to be >> fixed, or eliminated. >> >> >> >>>>>>> Last, the exported image is what you see on the canvas, an dis the size >>>>>>> of the canvas. Out-of-canvas parts are automatically cropped on export, >>>>>>> there is no need to flatten the image first. >>>>>>> >>>>>> That is good. But there is even less need for the crop to be broken >>>>>> because someone doesn't know how to use CTL Z. >>>>> Crop is not broken... for most purposes (especially exporting the >>>>> result) it works as before. And if you set the "Delete cropped pixels" >>>>> option, just save your tool options to have it become a default for you. >>>>> >>>> This is doesn't exist in this gimp version, GIMP 2.10. >>>> >>>> >>>> Actually, I finaly found it, under, of all place, dockable dialogs :( >>>> >>>> >>>> BTW - what it does, in addition to just being annoying, is it >>>> takes screen space. It is broken. It was working perectly. >>>> This is not trivial word play. It was working. It cropped >>>> perfectly, and now it leaves the canvas too large, produces >>>> a confusing layer, takes up unecessary screen space, and fails >>>> to actually crop because someone didn't know how to use CTL Z >>>> >>>> This defines broken >>>> http://www.nylxs.com/images/gimp_broken.jpg >>>> >>>> If you don't like the frame of your crop then just CTL Z and recrop >>>> >>>> Its not that hard. Even a graphic artist can do it. >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> gimp-user-list mailing list >>>>> List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org >>>>> List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list >>>>> List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list >>> Peace... >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gimp-user-list mailing list >>> List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org >>> List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list >>> List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list >> -- >> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town >> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological >> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 >> http://www.mrbrklyn.com >> >> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 >> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software >> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive >> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! >> http://www.brooklyn-living.com >> >> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, >> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gimp-user-list mailing list >> List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org >> List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list >> List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list -- /When I leave, I don't know what I'm hoping to find, And when I leave, I don't know what I'm leaving behind.../ _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
