Hi Peff,

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, Jeff King wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 04:46:29PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, Jeff King wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 03:34:16PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Rather than have a "hack day", I would actually prefer to work with
> > > > other contributors in a way that we have not done before, but which I
> > > > had the pleasure of "test ballooning" with Pratik: using Visual Studio
> > > > Code Live Share. This allows multiple users to work on the same code
> > > > base, in the same worktree, seeing what each other is doing. It
> > > > requires a separate communication channel to talk; Pratik & I used
> > > > IRC, but I think Google Hangout (or Skype or WhatsApp or
> > > > <insert-your-favorite-chat-here>) would have worked a bit better. It's
> > > > kind of pair programming, but with some of the limitations removed.
> > > 
> > > OK, I said in my earlier email that I would give any scheme a try, but I
> > > really don't like pair programming. ;)
> > 
> > Tastes do differ, and that's okay.
> > 
> > I found it pretty invaluable a tool for intense 1:1 mentoring. It
> > definitely helps a lot with getting over the initial hurdles.
> 
> Actually, I would agree that mentoring is probably one of the best uses
> for pairing like that. In retrospect, I think we should have done more
> real-time collaboration during Outreachy last winter.  It's still not my
> taste, but I think we could have accomplished more overall.
> 
> Not that I need to convince you, but just seconding your advice for the
> benefit of people who are thinking about mentoring in the future.

Well, proper mentoring *is* time-consuming. It is not like you're just
waiting for code to review, then do exactly the same as on the Git mailing
list. That'd not be mentoring. That'd be called "reviewing".

I still struggle, personally, to improve my mentoring skills, and at the
same time, I find it rewarding and I learn a lot. So I guess you can count
me in when it comes to Outreachy.

Ciao,
Dscho

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