Thanks for keeping me in the loop!

I have two thoughts on handling input:

As a coder I want to know exactly what's going on in my code. If I've given 
erroneous input I'd like to know about it in the most useful and quickest way, 
never glossed over, liberally accepted, nor fixed for me even if the input is 
non-ambigous. I won't learn the right way unless I'm told. I enjoy that when 
I've typo'd a command in GIT it gives useful suggestions to what I might have 
meant.

But, most of the coding *I* do is for the non-coder or the general end user. 
These might be people that would reasonably yell at their computer screen "you 
know what I meant!" So I try to be more liberal in the input I write code to 
accept by filtering it, cleaning it, etc. I'll even filter input by keystroke 
when possible. I have the philosophy: don't tell the user that they input 
something bad, just prevent them from inputting it to begin with. I know, this 
is appropriate when building a GUI and not for CLI.

thanks for listening
Reid Woodbury


> On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Kyle J. McKay <mack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 17:02, Torsten Bögershausen wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-04-02 21.35, Jeff King wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Reid Woodbury Jr. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ah, understand. Here's my project URL for 'remote "origin"' with a
>>>> more meaningful representation of their internal FQDN:
>>>> 
>>>>    url = ssh://rwoodbury@systemname.groupname.online:/opt/git/inventory.git
>>>> 
>>>> The "online" is their literal internal TLD.
>>> 
>>> Thanks. The problem is the extra ":" after "online"; your URL is
>>> malformed. You can just drop that colon entirely.
>>> 
>>> I do not think we need to support this syntax going forward (the colon
>>> is meaningless here, and our documentation is clear that it should go
>>> with a port number), but on the other hand, it might be nice to be more
>>> liberal, as we were in v2.3.3 and prior. I'll leave it to Torsten to see
>>> whether supporting that would hurt some of the other cases, or whether
>>> it would make the code too awkward.
>>> 
>>> -Peff
>> 
>> Thanks for digging.
>> 
>> This makes my think that it is
>> a) non-standard to have the extra colon
> 
> It's not.  See RFC 3986 appendix A:
> 
>  authority = [ userinfo "@" ] host [ ":" port ]
> 
>  port = *DIGIT
> 
> "*DIGIT" means (see RFC 2234 section 3.6) zero or more digits.
> 
>> b) The error message could be better
>> c) We don't have a test case
>> d) This reminds my of an improvement from Linus:
>> 608d48b2207a61528
>> ......
>>   So when somebody passes me a "please pull" request pointing to something
>>   like the following
>> 
>>      git://git.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mchehab/v4l-dvb.git
>> 
>>   (note the extraneous colon at the end of the host name), git would happily
>>   try to connect to port 0, which would generally just cause the remote to
>>   not even answer, and the "connect()" will take a long time to time out.
>> .....
>> 
>> Sorry guys for the regression, the old parser handled the extra colon as 
>> "port 0",
>> the new one looks for the "/" as the end of the hostname (and the beginning 
>> of the path)
>> 
>> Either we accept the extra colon as before, or the parser puts out a better 
>> error message,
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Spontaneously I would say that a trailing ':' at the end of a hostname in 
>> the ssh:// scheme
>> can be safely ignored, what do you think ?
> 
> You know, there is a "url_normalize" routine in urlmatch.h/urlmatch.c that 
> checks for a lot of these things and provides a translated error message if 
> there's a problem as well as normalizing and separating out the various parts 
> of the URL.  It does not currently handle default ports for anything other 
> than http[s] but it would be simple enough to add support for ssh, git, 
> ftp[s] and rsync default ports too.
> 
> -Kyle

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