Thanks for the code-example Bas!

> Op 23 mei 2016, om 14:20 heeft Hans Muller <j.m.mul...@hccnet.nl> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> thanks for your help. The translation for the 3134 (or less) captions has
> started.
> Best regards, hansmuller
> 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hansmuller
> 
> Op Ma, 9 mei, 2016 4:16 pm schreef Bas vb:
>> Hi Maarten,
>> I still had some similar code laying around. See
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Basvb/appendexample for the
>> basics of what would be the possible python script in the case described
>> by Hans. Mvg,
>> Bas
>> From: w...@maartenbrinkerink.net
>> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:21:48 +0200
>> To: glamtools@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Glamtools] adding 3134 captions after upload?
>> 
>> 
>> I would love an example of such a method/action!
>> Best,
>> Maarten
>> Op 9 mei 2016, om 14:14 heeft Bas vb <bas_...@hotmail.com> het volgende
>> geschreven:This should be quite easy with pywikibot if the file-names and
>> translations to add are given. If there are no indonesian translations
>> currently in the descriptions the new translation can simply be appended
>> after "|information=" Mvg,
>> Bas
>> 
>>> From: fae...@gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 12:36:19 +0100
>>> To: j.m.mul...@hccnet.nl; glamtools@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Glamtools] adding 3134 captions after upload?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's no 'painless' solution. I have made similar housekeeping
>>> updates to very large batch uploads post-upload using pywikibot using
>>> short scripts. Amongst other things, pywikibot can pull up the specific
>>> image page history and tell which past edits have been made and by whom,
>>> then make intelligent decisions on whether to add information or how to
>>> best do it. Terribly handy for avoiding doing something twice.
>>> 
>>> I suggest not being in a hurry. Focus on getting the translations
>>> done, if amenable to it, it would be worth training up the translator so
>>> they write the new text directly into the image templates rather than
>>> somewhere else. If this would be too difficult, then just get the
>>> translations as a file or spreadsheet, mapped against the related
>>> Commons images or reference numbers. There are several bot writers
>>> that might be interested in plugging the extra translations seamlessly
>>> into the current image pages once the data is ready. The best place to
>>> ask for a Commons bot specialist is on the bots work requests page.[1]
>>> 
>>> As you do so much of this stuff, I strongly recommend you try playing
>>> around with Python and pywikibot yourself, perhaps delaying this
>>> translation fix so you can use it to practice with. A script to do what
>>> you are looking for might only take around 20 or 30 lines of original
>>> programming, most of pywikibot's power lies in the handy modules that
>>> have been written to do exactly this sort of thing. See the advice and
>>> code examples in the manual.[2]
>>> 
>>> Links
>>> 1. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Work_requests
>>> 2. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fae
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 May 2016 at 12:19, Hans Muller <j.m.mul...@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ** Is it possible to add 3134 captions to existing images on Commons?
>>>> ** (without removing earlier work on the images, metadata and
>>>> categories)
>>>> 
>>>> This nice question presents itself in the following case. Recently, i
>>>> uploaded 3134 images from Dutch University Library Leiden UBL and
>>>> KITLV to
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_contributed_by_KITL
>>>> V_2016_-_Art_-_Temp
>>>> (309 colonial works of art)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> and
>>>> 
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_contributed_by_KITL
>>>> V_2016_-_Temp
>>>> (2805 colonial photographs)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> with captions in Dutch and English. I corrected the metadata,
>>>> categorised the images and put them into Wikipedia articles (only a
>>>> few ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Now a translator might be paid to translate the captions into Bahasa
>>>> Indonesia, the language of the people perhaps most interested in these
>>>> historical images. If the translator succeeds, that would mean
>>>> require language templates like
>>>> 
>>>> {{id|1= ... }}
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> to the description fields.
>>>> 
>>>> Re-uploading with GWToolset proved to be impossible if another user
>>>> has worked on the metadata since upload. Categorisation and my own
>>>> corrections to the metadata would be lost.
>>>> 
>>>> * Is there another, painless solution putting in the new translation
>>>> while keeping the previous work on these files?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for you considering this problem,
>>>> Best regards from a sunny Utrecht, the Netherlands,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> hans muller https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hansmuller
>>>> 
>>> 
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