Yes, Bas thanks!
(Now i have to generalise it to Artwork template and
inputfiles. Since 2001 i wanted to learn Python, never time, but...;-)

hansmuller


Op Ma, 23 mei, 2016 2:21 pm schreef Maarten Brinkerink:
> Thanks for the code-example Bas!
>
>
>> Op 23 mei 2016, om 14:20 heeft Hans Muller <j.m.mul...@hccnet.nl> het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> thanks for your help. The translation for the 3134 (or less) captions
>> has started. Best regards, hansmuller
>>
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hansmuller
>>
>>
>> Op Ma, 9 mei, 2016 4:16 pm schreef Bas vb:
>>
>>> Hi Maarten,
>>> I still had some similar code laying around. See
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Basvb/appendexample for
>>> the basics of what would be the possible python script in the case
>>> described by Hans. Mvg, Bas
>>> From: w...@maartenbrinkerink.net
>>> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:21:48 +0200
>>> To: glamtools@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Glamtools] adding 3134 captions after upload?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would love an example of such a method/action!
>>> Best,
>>> Maarten
>>> Op 9 mei 2016, om 14:14 heeft Bas vb <bas_...@hotmail.com> het
>>> volgende geschreven:This should be quite easy with pywikibot if the
>>> file-names and translations to add are given. If there are no
>>> indonesian translations currently in the descriptions the new
>>> translation can simply be appended after "|information=" Mvg, Bas
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: fae...@gmail.com
>>>> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 12:36:19 +0100
>>>> To: j.m.mul...@hccnet.nl; glamtools@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Glamtools] adding 3134 captions after upload?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's no 'painless' solution. I have made similar housekeeping
>>>> updates to very large batch uploads post-upload using pywikibot
>>>> using short scripts. Amongst other things, pywikibot can pull up the
>>>> specific image page history and tell which past edits have been made
>>>> and by whom, then make intelligent decisions on whether to add
>>>> information or how to best do it. Terribly handy for avoiding doing
>>>> something twice.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest not being in a hurry. Focus on getting the translations
>>>> done, if amenable to it, it would be worth training up the
>>>> translator so they write the new text directly into the image
>>>> templates rather than somewhere else. If this would be too
>>>> difficult, then just get the translations as a file or spreadsheet,
>>>> mapped against the related Commons images or reference numbers.
>>>> There are several bot writers
>>>> that might be interested in plugging the extra translations
>>>> seamlessly into the current image pages once the data is ready. The
>>>> best place to ask for a Commons bot specialist is on the bots work
>>>> requests page.[1]
>>>>
>>>> As you do so much of this stuff, I strongly recommend you try
>>>> playing around with Python and pywikibot yourself, perhaps delaying
>>>> this translation fix so you can use it to practice with. A script to
>>>> do what you are looking for might only take around 20 or 30 lines of
>>>> original programming, most of pywikibot's power lies in the handy
>>>> modules that have been written to do exactly this sort of thing. See
>>>> the advice and code examples in the manual.[2]
>>>>
>>>> Links
>>>> 1. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Work_requests
>>>> 2. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fae
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9 May 2016 at 12:19, Hans Muller <j.m.mul...@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Is it possible to add 3134 captions to existing images on
>>>>> Commons?
>>>>> ** (without removing earlier work on the images, metadata and
>>>>> categories)
>>>>>
>>>>> This nice question presents itself in the following case.
>>>>> Recently, i
>>>>> uploaded 3134 images from Dutch University Library Leiden UBL and
>>>>> KITLV to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_contributed_by_
>>>>> KITL
>>>>> V_2016_-_Art_-_Temp
>>>>> (309 colonial works of art)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_contributed_by_
>>>>> KITL
>>>>> V_2016_-_Temp
>>>>> (2805 colonial photographs)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> with captions in Dutch and English. I corrected the metadata,
>>>>> categorised the images and put them into Wikipedia articles (only
>>>>> a few ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Now a translator might be paid to translate the captions into
>>>>> Bahasa
>>>>> Indonesia, the language of the people perhaps most interested in
>>>>> these historical images. If the translator succeeds, that would
>>>>> mean require language templates like
>>>>>
>>>>> {{id|1= ... }}
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> to the description fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> Re-uploading with GWToolset proved to be impossible if another
>>>>> user has worked on the metadata since upload. Categorisation and
>>>>> my own corrections to the metadata would be lost.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Is there another, painless solution putting in the new
>>>>> translation while keeping the previous work on these files?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for you considering this problem,
>>>>> Best regards from a sunny Utrecht, the Netherlands,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hans muller https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hansmuller
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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