The main bottleneck in Glob2 was always memory bandwidth. Updates to the pathfinding gradients, and calculations for some of the AI algorithms, involved reading and writing back a few hundred bytes of data for every cell on the map.
In a potential update, pathfinding and these AI's could be rewritten from scratch. Also of note, the System-On-A-Chip designs of a modern cell phone tend to have pretty good memory performance. Maybe it won't even be an issue. ------ Bradley Arsenault < bradley.allen.arsena...@gmail.com > http://arsenault.enterprises/ 647-261-0462 Toronto, Ontario On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Shawn Anderson <shaw...@gmail.com> wrote: > I seem to remember Glob2 to be quite CPU intensive. Will it run adequately > on tablets and phones? > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Bradley Arsenault < > bradley.allen.arsena...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Globulation's core selling point is its gameplay. Graphics are secondary. >> >> >> >> ------ >> Bradley Arsenault < bradley.allen.arsena...@gmail.com > >> http://arsenault.enterprises/ >> 647-261-0462 >> Toronto, Ontario >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Alex K <alex3...@zoho.com> wrote: >> >>> 1) I'd definitely go for 2d. In all 3D RTS games that I played I move >>> camera around on the first run, think "yeah, cool but useless, whatever", >>> then go on playing in fixed isometric view all the time. Waste of resources. >>> 2) I think tiles are enough. I'm not an avid Android gamer, but most >>> games I've seen have them. >>> 3) I was actually thinking about the opposite - give up on trying to >>> squeeze RTS mission into short time and instead make them long, but >>> pausable, so player can work on the mission in chunks. The idea here is to >>> make pauses organic (theme them somehow) and quickly re-orient the player >>> when he resumes the mission. >>> As for what you're asking, I'm not sure how to achieve that without >>> turning the game into tower defense :) Maybe giving the player a lot of >>> infrastructure at mission start? Not sure how fun that would be though. >>> 6) +1 for tablets only. >>> >>> >>> On 27/08/14 14:06, Artur D wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for all your possitive responses. >>> >>> Yeah, I know it's going to be globulation3. >>> >>> To make things clearer: >>> >>> I will let you know when I could use some of your support, that is >>> when I'm more aware of the actual tasks to be done. When will I have >>> any financial problems (unlikely in the near future). But for that to >>> happen I must do a lot of research and planning, so it will probably >>> take me a month or two to actually start real coding. >>> >>> You probably remember me from globulation forums/irc channel. I am not >>> an experienced game developper, nor android developper, but I wanted >>> some real project to become one. I hope that I will learn a lot from >>> this, and that's actually the only thing I'm certain of. Also I think >>> that all of us had the problem which was having someone relentless >>> enough to carry the project and keep it alive long enough for others >>> to start contributing and treat it as a real thing. Now I bear in mind >>> that it's probably too big for me, and I won't succeed, but I actually >>> have a lot of motivation and I wish that'll be enough to at least >>> release something playable. >>> >>> Although it's still quite far away, now you can help me using your >>> love to globulation and imagination and raise a discussion of what >>> fundamental changes would you see in globulation 3. Those decisions >>> should be taken quite early. >>> >>> My main points to consider: >>> 1) will it stay 2d, or actually make it 3d, or at least 3d rendered to >>> allow better camera management, more realistic zooming and probably >>> round planet in function of a minimap when you zoom out. >>> I have a lot of concerns if 3d version will have good enough performance. >>> Here I'd prefer 3d for its pros, what do you think? Can you reccomend >>> any ready (and free) to use engines for that? >>> >>> 2) should I keep tiles, or make it with more freedom of space (which >>> would be probably extremely difficult, considering amount of path glob >>> is calculating), or make smaller tiles, or make everything radial (or >>> eliptical). With radial stuff it would be very easy to calculate >>> collisions, but still I'm not sure how pathmaking will work (but I >>> think it's doable). >>> As it would be probably nice to have, I think I'll stick to tiles. Or >>> maybe you have some experience with what I mentioned and it's not as >>> difficult as I imagine? >>> >>> 3) what could we change in gameplay to create opportunity for short, >>> enjoyable games using a big part of variety the game will offer (apart >>> from simple warrior/hospital rush) which duration wouldn't exceed 10 >>> minutes, as people on android are expecting games which they can play >>> for example in traffic, short, but many games, and be able to stop >>> when they wish. The current design of globulation I feel is lacking >>> that option. Should I develop it keeping it in mind as high priority? >>> What do you think? >>> >>> 4) I am not sure if similiar YOG client for android could work. >>> Certainly in the future I will need help with multiplayer. I haven't >>> seen an application which would offer downloading extra content for >>> the game via the game, but I guess it's doable considering the fact >>> that they are allowed to download extra ads to display :P >>> >>> 5) I haven't yet checked how programming in C++ under android looks >>> like and whether I should learn java for this project, or stay with >>> C++, as I saw few applications written in C++ ported for android with >>> some emulations I'd guess. For example wesnoth. >>> >>> 6) I think I shouldn't worry about phones and design for tablets, as >>> phones probably have too little resolution for this to work. Or am I >>> wrong? >>> >>> So there's a lot of concerns. In the worst case I'll share postmortem >>> and join your initiatives to revive globulation. Or in the more >>> succesful case, I'll fail and someone will use my work to go on. >>> Anyways it'll be fun. >>> >>> I am going to start working when my personal computer returns from >>> repairment. I'll keep you updated. >>> >>> P.S: Sorry if my English is difficult to understand. >>> >>> Regards, >>> zenfur >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> glob2-devel mailing >>> listglob2-devel@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/glob2-devel >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *--Regards, Alex* >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> glob2-devel mailing list >>> glob2-devel@nongnu.org >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/glob2-devel >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> glob2-devel mailing list >> glob2-devel@nongnu.org >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/glob2-devel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > glob2-devel mailing list > glob2-devel@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/glob2-devel > >
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