I agree with increasing the size of the box (if seeing inconsistent shifts, as i should have mentioned in my previous post) and in this case it is practical to do as the system is quite small. However (just for future reference) if the problem were in a much larger system (as it is in my case) then it may be more suitable to modify the source code to avoid increasing the size of the system simulated.

Tom

--On Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:52:01 +1000 Mitchell Stanton-Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have had a similar problem with orientation restraints.

Are the residues far is space? Are you getting inconsistent shifts? If so
-

If so re-define your box size so that the shortest box vector is greater
than the distance restraint residue + some tolerance.

I also noticed -

[ distance_restraints ]
;ai     aj      type    index   type   low     up1     up2     fac
 9     413       1         0     1       8.18     8.18      10.0
 1.0

Have you defined the low up and up2 in the correct units?

Cheers

Mitch

TJ Piggot wrote:
Hi,

Firstly I would strongly reiterate what Mark said. I would make sure
the distance restraints are causing your problem. Again as Mark said
make sure you can simulate your system without the distance
restraints, and then I would try to simulate the system with distance
restraints and with a much larger box of water surrounding your
peptide. Here you should also be able to overcome the problem (if it
is this problem) with a large enough distance between periodic images.

If you can then confirm what you have suspected to be the problem you
will need to modify the source code slightly. If you search the list
(searching for "inconsistent shifts using multiple bonds type 6") you
can see the changes you need to make, as suggested by Berk Hess to me
when i had this problem with bond type 6.


Hope this helps

Cheers

Tom

--On Wednesday, March 05, 2008 17:16:23 -0500 Grace Li
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,
I am having some trouble using distance restraints. My goal is to
apply a
harmonic potential to the distance between two atoms in a short peptide
(35 residues). Doing simulations in vacuo, both of the following
techniques worked to restrain the distance. Also, both techniques worked
for simulations in water without periodic boundary conditions. As soon
 as I include pbc = xyz in my .mdp file and use PME for the
electrostatics,  my simulation crashes (producing step0.pdb and
step-1.pdb). I am assuming this is because GROMACS is using the distance
to the image of the other atom, not the actual distance in the box? Is
there any way of getting around PBC for distance restraints?

Specifically, I have used the following:

1. I have tried using bonds type 6 in my topology:
[ bonds ]
;  ai    aj funct c0 c1 c2 c3
   9   413     6 8.18  421.54

2. When using distance restraints, I added the following lines to my
topology file:
[ distance_restraints ]
;ai     aj      type    index   type   low     up1     up2     fac
 9     413    1         0         1       8.18     8.18      10.0
 1.0

In the case of using [ distance_restraints ] in the topology file, I
 have
added the following lines to my .mdp file:
disre = simple
disre_fc = 421.54
disre_weighting = equal
disre_tau = 0
(and various other values of the force constant, disre_fc, but in all
cases the run crashes).

Thanks for any suggestions!
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