Hi,

most likely the Ethernet is the problem here. I compiled some numbers for the DPPC benchmark in the paper "Speeding up parallel GROMACS on high-latency networks",
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/114205207/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
which are for version 3.3, but PME will behave similarly. If you did not already use separate PME nodes, this is worth a try, since on Ethernet the performance will drastically depend on the number of nodes involved in the FFT. I also have a tool which finds the optimal PME settings for a given number of nodes, by varying the number of PME nodes
and the fourier grid settings. I can send it to you if you want.

Carsten


On Nov 9, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Yawar JQ wrote:

I was wondering if anyone could comment on these benchmark results for the d.dppc benchmark?

Nodes   Cutoff (ns/day) PME (ns/day)
4       1.331   0.797
8       2.564   1.497
16      4.5     1.92
32      8.308   0.575
64      13.5    0.275
128     20.093  -
192     21.6    -

It seems to scale relatively well up to 32-64 nodes without PME. This seems slightly better than the benchmark results for Gromacs 3 on www.gromacs.org.

Can someone comment on the magnitude of the performance hit and lack of scaling with PME is worrying me.

For the PME runs, I set rlist,rvdw,rouloumb=1.2 and the rest set to the defaults. I can try it with some other settings, larger spacing for the grid, but I'm not sure how much more that would help. Is there a more standardized system I should use for testing PME scaling?

This is with GNU compilers and parallelization with OpenMPI 1.2. I'm not sure what we're using for the FFTW The compute nodes are Dell m600 blades w/ 16GB of RAM and dual quad core Intel Xeon 3GHz processors. I believe it's all ethernet interconnects.

Thanks,
YQ
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