Andrei Neamtu wrote:
Dear Justin,

thank you for your reply.

I am not trying to obtain the tethraedrality order parameter.
I want to use the g_order on a linear flexible molecule grafted to the
surface of the bilayer.
I think that the usual united atom order parameter (the component on
the direction perpendicular to the plane of the membrane) can give
information about the degree of alignment of this grafted linear
molecule (or an ensemble of molecules) with that axis. Do you think
this is correct?

How exactly is the g_order parameter calculated in Gromacs? I couldn't
find it in the manual.

The order parameter calculated by g_order is designed for use with lipids, such that deuteron positions are interpolated and the angle between the C-D bond vector and the normal is calculated. The equation for the exact relationship between this angle and the order parameter appears in nearly every membrane MD paper.

Whether or not that is suitable for your purposes is up to you. I doubt that it is, given the nature of your system. If you really want to try, you'll have to probably override the 0.3-nm check in gmx_order.c and re-compile. But in any case, g_order is going to try to reconstruct deuterons around whichever atoms you're analyzing.

-Justin


Andrei

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Justin A. Lemkul<jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:

Andrei Neamtu wrote:
Hello,

I am trying to use g_order (gmx 4.0.5) on a coarse grained membrane.
Because the distances between two atoms two bonds apart is greater
than 0.3nm I keep receiving the message:

.....................................
Warming: distance between atoms ***** and XXXXX > 0.3 nm (******) .
Index file might be corrupt
Warming: distance between atoms ***** and XXXXX > 0.3 nm (******) .
Index file might be corrupt
Warming: distance between atoms ***** and XXXXX > 0.3 nm (******) .
Index file might be corrupt
Warming: distance between atoms ***** and XXXXX > 0.3 nm (******) .
Index file might be corrupt
Warming: distance between atoms ***** and XXXXX > 0.3 nm (******) .
Index file might be corrupt
..................... and so on

I think that writing out these messages reduces the performance of the
g_order which takes a lot of time to complete.

Does anyone know how to suppress these messages?

Not without changing the source code and re-compiling.  But is using g_order
on a CG membrane appropriate?  The bond between the coarse particles doesn't
even necessarily correspond to a C-C bond (or else you'd just be using a UA
force field), so I would think that the reconstruction of tetrahedrality is
not accurate.

-Justin

Thank you,
Andrei
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