Lum Nforbi wrote:
Justin,

The sodium ion I am talking about is part of the docusate sodium salt (AOT). If I want to solvate 100 AOT molecules with water molecules, how do I make sodium ions part of the system? I am not just adding sodium ions to balance the charge of the system. The sodium ions are part of the AOT molecules, so I need 100 sodium ions in the system. Do I just add one sodium ion in the parameter file containing the rest of the 65 atoms of AOT, then specify #include "ions.itp" in the fopology?
I appreciate your answers.


I'm not 100% clear on your scenario. If the Na+ ion is "part of the AOT molecule" then you shouldn't have to add anything, right? There are two scenarios for including the parameters:

1. If the sodium ion is not part of the AOT [moleculetype] and coordinate file already, then you can add them with genion in the solvated system, and then just #include "ions.itp." There is absolutely no difference between adding 100 Na+ ions to be considered part of the molecule (which is ionic, and probably dissociates in water anyway) and adding counterions.

2. If the Na+ ion is defined as part of the AOT [moleculetype] definition, then the atom type will already be defined within the force field parameter files and there is no need to #include "ions.itp" since the Na+ parameters will be explicitly included.

The choice is up to you, based on how the topology is organized.

(Aside: Can you help with replying emails via this forum. I use gmail and when I click the reply tab, it includes all the mails for that issue, and there is no "subject" entry. So I always have to copy and paste the mail before replying. I appreciate your help).


Two options:

1. Change your Gromacs mail preferences to not receive the list in digest form, instead you will receive individual messages. 2. Cut out the irrelevant text from the digest; there should still be some way to actually set a subject line. Plenty of users on this list use Gmail, perhaps someone else can give better advice.

-Justin


Lum Nforbi wrote:
 > Hi All,
 >
 >    I would like to include sodium ions into a water/AOT (sodium
 > di-2-ethylhexylsulfoccinate) cubic box. Can someone tell me how to do
> this and how to include parameters for the sodium ion in the parameter file?
 > I appreciate your answers.

Shouldn't this be as simple as using genion and then:

#include "ions.itp"

in the topology?  Or is there some other problem you're having?

-Justin

 >
 > Lum
 >



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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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