sonali dhindwal wrote:
Thanks Justin for your help
I checked the mdout.mpd, all the parameters were interpereted correctly, though from next time i will take care of putting space. regarding you asked if those are small molecules, yes those are the ligands and i have taken .itp and .gro file from Dundee Prodrg server. I think those are acceptable !!

I seem to say this several times per week: in my experience (and in the experience of many others who have posted here) the charges and charge groups output by PRODRG are often unsatisfactory, requiring manual modification and validation that they are correct. This should be absolutely requisite for any study involving non-standard small molecules. Increasingly, I see poor parameters used in the literature and it always makes me wonder how the simulations can be regarded as valid. There should be no shortcuts - parameterization of small molecules is an advanced topic, requiring great care and understanding of the underlying force field.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

I don't mean to undermine PRODRG entirely - it is a very useful tool for generating a framework topology. But I have yet to see a topology it produced that is at all consistent with the parameters in the Gromos96 force field. Try it yourself - run a known species (like an amino acid) through PRODRG. The results it gives are usually wildly inconsistent with the force field parameter library.

-Justin

Thermostat setup:
I will now do this thing seperately as protein and non protein only as given in manual.

And also I will do that thing suggested by Gaurav, hopefully it will help in not distorting the protein structure.
Thanks a lot.

--
Sonali Dhindwal


--- On *Wed, 19/5/10, Justin A. Lemkul /<jalem...@vt.edu>/* wrote:


    From: Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>
    Subject: Re: [gmx-users] enegry minimisation
    To: "Gromacs Users' List" <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
    Date: Wednesday, 19 May, 2010, 5:45 PM



    sonali dhindwal wrote:
     > Thanks Justin for your reply.
     > Yes I have included solvent in the protein using genbox.

    Then you should do energy minimization after constructing the system.

     > I am pasting .mdp file which I used for MD simulation :
     >
     > title               = trp_drg MD
     > cpp                 = /lib/cpp ; location of cpp on SGI
     > constraints         = all-bonds
     > integrator          = md
     > dt                  = 0.002 ; ps !
     > nsteps              = 500000 ; total 1 ns.
     > nstcomm             =1

    I don't know if this matters or not, but I think your parameters and
    values should be separated from the '=' by whitespace.  I also don't
    know if that will have any effect on your unstable system (see
    below), but do check to make sure that all of your settings have
    been interpreted correctly.  Confirm your input settings with the
    mdout.mdp file produced by grompp.

     > nstxout             = 500 ; output coordinates every 1.0 ps
     > nstvout             =0
     > nstfout             =0
     > nstlist             = 5
     > ns_type             = grid
     > rlist               = 0.9
     > coulombtype         = PME
     > rcoulomb            = 0.9
     > rvdw                = 1.4
     > fourierspacing      = 0.12
     > fourier_nx        =0
     > fourier_ny        =0
     > fourier_nz        =0
     > pme_order         =6
     > ewald_rtol        = 1e-5
     > optimize_fft      = yes
     > ; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in four groups
     > Tcoupl                = berendsen
     > tau_t               = 0.1        0.1   0.1   0.1   0.1   0.1
     > tc_grps             = Protein    SOL    MG   PEP   E4P   NA+
     > ref_t               = 300        300   300   300   300   300

    This thermostat setup is certainly incorrect.  You should not couple
    all the components of your system to separate thermostats.  See here:

    http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Thermostats

    You have a fairly complicated system.  Are some of these species
    small molecules?  If so, how did you derive their parameters?  Have
    you demonstrated that these parameters are accurate?  Which
    structure is falling apart, and how are you making that assessment?

    -Justin

     > ; Pressure coupling is on
     > Pcoupl              = berendsen
     > pcoupltype          = isotropic
     > tau_p               = 0.5
     > compressibility     = 4.5e-5
     > ref_p               = 1.0
     > ; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
     > gen_vel             = yes
     > gen_temp = 300.0
     > gen_seed = 173529
     >
     > I hope it will help you to guide me futher.
     > Thanks
     >
     > --
     > Sonali Dhindwal
     >
     >
     > --- On *Wed, 19/5/10, Justin A. Lemkul /<jalem...@vt.edu>/* wrote:
     >
     >
     >     From: Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>
     >     Subject: Re: [gmx-users] enegry minimisation
     >     To: "Discussion list for GROMACS users" <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
     >     Date: Wednesday, 19 May, 2010, 5:17 PM
     >
     >
     >
     >     sonali dhindwal wrote:
     >      > Hello All
     >      > This question may sound trivial to many, but as i am new
    to this
     >     field, please help.
     >      > I want to ask a question regarding my previous query of
     >     distortion of protein strucutre after molecular dynamcs
    simulation.
     >
     >     Can you provide a link to your previous post, for reference?
     >
     >      > I have noticed that after enegry minimisation using steepest
     >     decent algorithm, using emtol of 1000 kJ mol^-1 nm^-1 .
     >      > So is it necessary to do enegry minimisation step before MD,
     >     because this is my modeled protein, and i have  already done
    energy
     >     minimisation using different program and after that I have done
     >     refinement also.
     >
     >     Have you added solvent or anything else to the protein model?  If
     >     so, then the answer is yes.  Solvation with a regularly-ordered
     >     lattice of solvent molecules can (and often does) lead to bad
     >     clashes with your protein structure, thus necessitating further
     >     minimization.
     >
     >     There are plenty of reasons why a protein structure might be
     >     unstable, most of them related to .mdp file settings, but you
     >     haven't posted those so there's no way to know if you're doing
     >     things correctly.
     >
     >     -Justin
     >
     >      > Thanks and regards
     >      > ^
     >      >
     >      > --
     >      > Sonali Dhindwal
     >      >
     >      >
     >
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