Dear Mark:

Now I am confused. Your first post indicated that P-LINCS did the angle constraints. But here you indicate that the v-site algorithm does it. This is probably because my first post was incomplete about the method that I used.

Can you please confirm my current understanding?

Therefore (A):

     pdb2gmx -vsite none
     constraints = h-angles
     constraint_algorithm =  lincs

--> P-LINCS constrains all bonds and angles involving hydrogens

But when I use (B):

     pdb2gmx -vsite hydrogen
     constraints = all-bonds
     constraint_algorithm =  lincs

--> Hydrogens are built as V-sites and P-LINCS constrains all bonds that do not involve hydrogen.

Of course, water is treated by SETTLE in both of the above.

Please note that I am not concerned about getting LINCS warnings. I probably should not have mentioned that. I am simply trying to figure out exactly how to write my methods section.

Thank you,
Chris.

-- original message --

Mark

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 4:40 PM, chris.neale at utoronto.ca <mailto:chris.neale at utoronto.ca> <chris.neale at utoronto.ca <mailto:chris.neale at utoronto.ca>> wrote:

    Thank you Roland.

    I did use:

    constraints = all-bonds
    lincs-iter =  1
    lincs-order =  6
    constraint_algorithm =  lincs

     From looking at the manual, I figured that angle and bond constraints
    would all be done by LINCS if I had done (A):

    pdb2gmx -vsite none
    constraints = h-angles
    (a combination that I have never tried)

    But when I use (B):

    pdb2gmx -vsite hydrogen
    constraints = all-bonds

    It seems possible to me that LINCS is not used but instead the
    position of the atom is simply built from a mathematical function.
    Perhaps this all stems from my lack of thorough understanding of
    LINCS, but it seems to me that there need be no iteration to simply
    place an atoms based on virtual_sites3 (which are constructed by
    pdb2gms -hydrogen)

    For now, I'll simply add a line to state that I built virtual sites
    for hydrogen atoms to make it clear, but I'd still like to understand
    the difference between options A and B, above, if you have some time.

    Thank you again,
    Chris.





    On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 4:13 PM, chris.neale at utoronto.ca
    <http://utoronto.ca> <
    chris.neale at utoronto.ca <http://utoronto.ca>> wrote:

    > Dear Users:
    >
    > If I create the topology of a peptide like this:
    >
    > pdb2gmx -f protein.gro -vsite hydrogens
    >
    > And then simulate it in vacuum, is lincs used at all? I believe that
    > it is, as if I use a timestep that is too large then I get LINCS
    > warnings about angles rotating more than 30 degrees, but that
    warning
    > message could possibly have been written with the assumption that I
    > used LINCS and not virtual hydrogens.
    >
    Probably. To make sure check the constraint-algorithm selected in
    your mdp.
    BTW: If you want to use large timecheck you should normally use
    constraints=all-bonds and lincs-order=6.


    >
    > Finally, is there a method that needs to be named or cited in
    relation
    > to the fact that the angles are now constrained? Is that also done
    > with P-LINCS?
    >
    This is also done with P-LINCS. Not sure whether one should sign
    something
    regarding the construction/usage of v-sites.

    Roland


    >
    > Thank you,
    > Chris.




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