On 6/8/12 2:01 PM, James Starlight wrote:
Justin,

Does the gb_10 suitable for both bonds that I want to parametrise ?

As I've told previously I need to parametrise two different bonds

1) is the >C=C< bond wich are not in the ring. This is just double bound in
linnear sequence -C=C-.

2) is the >C=N- double bond where both atoms in the 5-m ring system


This is a better description. The last message suggested everything was in a 5-membered ring. Had that been the case, my suggestion would have been right (see, for instance, a HIS side chain - gb_10 is used for both C=C and C=N in that case).

There are no linear C=C bonds in Gromos force fields by default, as such groups are not in proteins. The closest you can likely come is to take a C=C bond from the PHE ring. Bond lengths are simple, and are usually derived from spectroscopic information. If using constraints on all bonds, the force constant is irrelevant since the bond is rigid. If not using constraints, then you'll have to find or derive suitable parameters yourself. Welcome to the inconvenient world of parameterization :)

-Justin

Thanks again,

James



2012/6/8 Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>



    On 6/8/12 1:22 PM, James Starlight wrote:

        I've found that information in ffbonded.itp but I'm not sure about 
exactly
        meaning of some types.


        E.g I'm looking for bond type for simple double bond between C=C as well
        as C=N
        ( here both atoms in 5-m ring) atoms pairs. Should I use for the first 
one
        #define gb_15       0.1390  8.6600e+06
        ; CH2  -  C, CR1 (6-ring)       800

           and for the second one ;

        #define gb_11       0.1340  1.0500e+07
        ; C  -  N, NZ, NE       900
        ?


    Neither.  gb_10 sounds exactly like what you need:

    #define gb_10       0.1330  1.1800e+07
    ; C, CR1  -  N, NR, CR1, C (peptide, 5-ring)       1000

    -Justin

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