On 11/06/2012 6:12 PM, James Starlight wrote:
Justin


1) So if I understood correctly I can make parametrisation of my uncommon group by the atb for instance. Than I can change itp file to rtp form and integrate this new residue to the existing ff. Finally when I will run pdb2gmx on the protein with the same group (even with different atom order) I obtain proper topology.top file. Doest it correct ?

The "change" to which you refer will be non-trivial because of the covalent bond. Charge distribution and atom types will change.


2) I've defined bond between both of my atoms as the gb_15 and define this atoms as the C in the topology.top. Than I've run minimisation and short 3ns MD_run. Unfortunatelly this atoms was in the sp3 form and were not in the planar form :( What else should I do ? Could some operations with the angle term in topology.top help me? I've modified 612 613 614 2 as the ga_27 but it also could not help me.

It is possible to hack something that will work, but the transferability of charges from an isolated form to a form covalently bound to a peptide is (at best) doubtful. If your atomic arrangement is changing, the presence of single vs double bonds must be changing, and that should basically guarantee non-transferability.

The most correct form of a solution is to parameterise the modified form of the residue along the same lines as the original force field parameterization. That may or may not be feasible for you. It's hard to be more specific without knowing exactly what modified residue you are seeking to create.

Mark




James

2012/6/10 Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>



    On 6/10/12 8:03 AM, James Starlight wrote:

        Justin,

        thanks again for help.

        Finally is there any generall solution to parametrise
        hetero-groups covalently
        bonded with the protein ? Many proteins consist of such groups
        e.g chromophore
        in GFP, retinall in rhodopsin as well as some prostetic groups
        in the enzymes.


    Parameterization schemes differ across force fields.  It's never
    easy.


        I've tried to make something like you've told me via inclusion of
        pre-parametrised residues in the existing gromacs ff but
        forced with some
        problems due to the atom order in new ITP and gro files
        provided by ATb or
        PRODRG are different from initial pdb file so pdb2gmx on the
        whole protein where
        het-group in the old order would not work properly :(


    The output .itp files of ATB or PRODRG are not what you should be
    using.  You can't #include a covalently attached residue and
    expect the resulting dynamics to be relevant; it's not like a ligand.

    What you need to do in those cases is create an .rtp entry (and
    any other incidental bonded and nonbonded additions, as stated
    before) that specifies whatever parameters you believe to be
    reliable.  At that point, when the .rtp file is read, the atom
    order is irrelevant - if pdb2gmx finds the atoms it needs, it
    builds the topology.


    -Justin

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