Justin, Thanks for those words. With regard to PFV being a bottleneck, I'm not suggesting that things can't move forward without us getting everything checked, I'm just saying that unless we have a distro that has checked software, then the best we can say is _Well it's sort of free_.
What I mean is that it would be silly to rush out another release, without having a good go at the PFV stuff. Developer time as you correctly stated, is a commodity. >From a personal perspective, I'd like gNS to be released regularly, because I like new (but stable) software, as much as anyone. Lee and I are doing the best we can to progress the PFV work, and we have a good following that are pushing forward. gNS is in good shape at the moment, and we seem a happy bunch. That's good :-). I won't say any more on this, otherwise the list will end up like Gobuntu's. Bottom-line: Keep-up the good work, everyone. We are heading in the right direction, and seem to have some firm guidelines to work to. Cheers, Chris. On 16/10/2007, Justin Baugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Folks, this is a -devel list, primarily for discussion of work that people > > are actually doing on Gobuntu. Most of the traffic so far as been "what we > > want from Gobuntu" not "what we will put into Gobuntu". Please don't use > > this list as a forum for demands about your ideal platform - use it to > > discuss the work you are willing to put into bringing Gobuntu more into > > line with that ideal. > > Gobuntu exists as a forum for action - it will only be as good as the > > effort that goes into it. Colin, Evan, Daniel Holbach and others will help > > anyone who wants to put time and effort into Gobuntu achieve that goal. > > Mark > > > > EXCUSE ME?! > > > > Is he saying that, of all the feedback and ideas on how to make Gobuntu > > more free he is acturaly telling us to basicaly shut up?! > > You missed his point entirely. > > What Shuttleworth is saying is that much like on this mailing list, there > are lots of people occasionally clamoring for a feature or something they > want - but want someone else to do it for them. Very rarely on this list > (*please* correct me if I am wrong) do you see someone propose a feature > that they actually implement themselves. PFV is the only exception of > something that lots of people are helping with (btw Chris, as a sidenote, > I disagree entirely that the bottleneck for having a updated gNS release > is PFV. It would seem to be instead exclusively related to available > developer time). > > He's basically saying that people making endless requests is unhelpful. > And you know what? He's right. It's far more helpful for someone to > discuss what work they can actually do to achieve a goal rather than to > just clamor for the goal over and over again. He's not telling people to > shut up - rather, to put up. gNS should illustrate that making a totally > free OS is not an easy task, and not to be taken lightly. Action is worth > ten thousand words. > > I don't think his response is so horrible, personally. I'm more than happy > to entertain a discussion of why it is, however. > > -Justin > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gNewSense-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnewsense-users > -- Reasons why you may want to try GNU/Linux: http://www.getgnulinux.org/ A great GNU/Linux distro: http://wiki.gnewsense.org/ _______________________________________________ gNewSense-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnewsense-users
