On Nov 9, 2007 11:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Instead, these companies claimed that, in order > to provide DSL, they had to line share with Verizon and that > (drumroll, please) Verizon had "not yet" released the rights to line > share for dry loop service.
Yah, the big telcos are just as evil as the big cable cos. And saying either of them "don't get it" isn't strictly accurate. They just have no interest in giving you what you want. Comcast will only sell Internet with TV because they make more money that way. (And they have a near-monopoly so it don't matter.) Likewise, Verizon doesn't want to give people the opportunity to not give them money. The good local players (MV is one) will have been around long enough to know how to deal with the ILEC and wrangle service out of them. > Clearly, the telco is doing *something* right. It's actually MV that's doing something right here. There are two scenarios for non-ILEC DSL. One is a true dry pair: The ILEC (Verizon) just provides a pair of copper wires from your place to the CO. MV co-locates their equipment in the CO, and connects that pair directly to MV equipment. The other scenario is that it's actually not a dry pair, but resold ILEC DSL with third-party Internet (MV being the third party in this scenario). Verizon provides DSL to their CO and DSLAM, and then a PVC (or something like a PVC; I think the technology is different these days, but it's the same idea) to MV's network center. The IP feed goes from MV to your place; Verizon is just carrying bits; they don't care that you're running IP in it. Either way, you end up on MV's routers and transit feeds, and that's a good thing. MV is a top-notch provider, so I would expect they haven't oversubscribed their network to the point of congestion, and I would expect their routers are configured to honor TOS bits. ILEC = Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier, the company that owns the wires on the poles CO = Central Office, building where the ILEC keeps their equipment DSL = Digital Subscriber Line, bits instead of voice going from the CO to your house DSLAM = DSL Access Multiplexer, the CO equipment that terminates and concenstrates DSLs PVC = Permanent Virtual Circuit, a configuration entity on a packet-switched network that makes a path act like it's on a circuit-switched network, with committed data rates dry pair = a copper circuit, provided by the ILEC, but connected at each end to non-ILEC equipment -- Ben _______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
