In a message dated: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 04:02:06 +0100
Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan said:

>Hi again,
>But if we are already talking about this topic...I was wondering who can
>address herself/himself a Seniour Unix System Administrator? It sounds such
>a nice title to me, especially because of that Seniour. Well, anybody can,
>but when won't people laugh at him/her. 
>"The more you know, the more you realize how little you know."-just a
>(Hungarian/international) saying. I keep facing how true this is.

IMO, those who deserve the title are those who:

        Know their shit
        Aren't arrogant about it
        Don't pretend to know more than they do
        Don't put down others who don't know as much as them
                (i.e. newbies/neophytes)
                (you're exempt from this clause if the situation
                 involves a PHB:)
        Readily and willingly help people who want to be helped 
        Readily and willingly teach others who want to learn
        Enjoy what they do
        Constantly seek to increase their knowledge
        Can admit they were wrong
        Can accept ideas from others
        Are nice people :)

Of course, there are a variety of guidelines, and it depends upon who you're 
talking to:

According to USENIX, a senior unix sysadmin has at least 10 years experience
in the field, so by those standards, Derek and I are mid-level sysadmins,
since we only have 5+ years experience.

As far as the "IT" industry is concerned, we get paid as Senior Level 
sysadmins.  And, obviously, if you're the *only* sysadmin at your company, you
kind of end up being "Senior" by default.

In the NT world, amusingly enough, you can be a "Senior" sysadmin with 3-5 
years experience and an MCSE.  This kills me, since I have yet to meet a 
"Senior" level MS sysadmin that knows even half what a *junior* unix sysadmin 
knows.

So, in short, titles usually mean little to me.  Though I've been doing 
sysadmin for 5+ years, and am considered salary-wise to be senior, I consider 
myself to be junior to mid-level. And compared to someone like Evi Nemeth or
Rob Kolstad, I'm dirt :)
-- 

Seeya,
Paul
----
    Doing something stupid always costs less (up front) than doing
                        something intelligent.
                  Bean counters are *always* wrong!
  A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking.
         If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!



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