Hi,

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Luca Ferretti<elle....@libero.it> wrote:
> Il giorno dom, 23/08/2009 alle 08.44 +0200, Frederic Peters ha scritto:
>> William Jon McCann wrote:
>>
>> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592759
>> >
>> > So, how about it?  I promise they make the user experience better.
>
> Are you proposing to remove the Windows preferences capplet now? Isn't
> better wait for availability of "tweak ui" tool? If you really think it
> doesn't fit, you could simply hide the launcher.

Yes, we should remove it now - or years ago actually.  There are a
number of reasons why I don't think it is right to wait for the
availability of a tweak UI tool.

 * If we don't remove the capplet there is less incentive to create such a tool
 * We shouldn't assume that such a tool will include this particular
set of controls
 * We should let the demand/market determine whether such a tool is even desired
 * We shouldn't let these kind of issues hold us back from the
providing a good user experience

> However, I think the proper timing for this kind of changes/removals
> will be the switch to gnome-shell, keeping the ui that users are
> accustomed in the meantime.

I don't agree at all, obviously.  Even in the GNOME 2 panel, this
window clutters up our Preferences menu and provides no real value for
the overwhelming majority of people.  However, since you mention it,
one of the very important goals for 2.28 is to be a baseline system
for testing the Shell.  Keep in mind that the Windows menu is tied to
features of the old metacity that may not even be relevant for mutter.
 And even if they are they are certainly not the type of thing we'd
want to show as a toplevel control center feature.  I mean, look at
the options in that dialog.  They are for tweakers.  Let's remove it.

Thanks,
Jon
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