On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 19:59 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 18:00 -0700, Jonathan Wilde wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Sorry for the late-ish response. I've been busy getting back up to > > speed with my classes after the sprints. > > > > At the sprints, most of my work was centered around applying (cutting, > > pasting, and changing classnames to work with Plone 3 from Christopher > > Warner's code) the existing CSS to the new theme directory that we > > created (which is pretty-much done, but needs some cleanup) and porting > > the Plone 2 templates to Plone 3 viewlets. The viewlet work is pretty > > much done. > > > > We have a buildout (which I'm pretty sure runs out-of-the-box) at: > > https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/gnomeweb-plone/trunk/. The folder > > buildout that we're using is wgo.buildout-dev. Just bootstrap.py it and > > bin/buildout it and you'll be good to go. > > > > There's still a fair bit of work to do, though. In general, here's what > > we need to get done: > > > > 1. Cleanup and consolidation of stylesheets (remove !importants > > that I added during development and get rid of default Plone > > styles whenever possible). > > 2. Making portlets look more GNOME-ish and less Plone-ish > > 3. Styling of the secondary sidebar navigation. There's some code > > that displays the secondary navigation as a portlet. Right now, > > that portlet would need to get ported from Plone 2 to Plone 3. > > In Plone 3, the navigation portlet appears to be able to be > > customized (through the GUI) to do exactly what that code did. > > We may be able to cut development time by doing that. > > 4. Creating a custom homepage view that displays the RSS feeds. > > 5. Switching to a tableless layout. Plone 3 uses a table-based > > layout now. To maintain code continuity with the current GNOME > > site and improve the site's semantic-ness, we should probably > > make the layout tableless. Luckily, there's > > http://plone.org/products/plone-tableless which accomplishes > > that. A few members of the OOTB Plone Themes project have > > reported success with using the page templates from this theme > > in their own custom themes. > > Thanks. > > Which of these are regressions compared to the Plone 2 version that was > running on a test site once? I realise that you'll have to guess the > answer (based on your understanding of Plone 2 & 3) because you probably > never saw that site. > > > 6. Public test server, beta testing, etc. > > This is essential for us to even think about any planning beyond this.
I'm still waiting (with ever less hope) for a reply. In the meantime I tried to do a "buildout" of this new fork, using the instructions here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/PloneImplementation (Using wgo.buildout-dev instead of wgo.buildout. I guess you renamed that.) But when running the instance, and trying to look at it in a browser, I got this crash: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev$ ./bin/instance fg /home/murrayc/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev/parts/instance/bin/runzope -X debug-mode=on 2008-10-26 18:00:05 INFO ZServer HTTP server started at Sun Oct 26 18:00:05 2008 Hostname: 0.0.0.0 Port: 8080 2008-10-26 18:00:14 ERROR Application Couldn't install Five Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/murrayc/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev/parts/zope2/lib/python/OFS/Application.py", line 786, in install_product initmethod(context) File "/home/murrayc/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev/parts/zope2/lib/python/Products/Five/__init__.py", line 28, in initialize zcml.load_site() File "/home/murrayc/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev/parts/zope2/lib/python/Products/Five/zcml.py", line 53, in load_site _context = xmlconfig.file(file) File "/home/murrayc/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev/parts/zope2/lib/python/zope/configuration/xmlconfig.py", line 579, in file include(context, name, package) File "/home/murrayc/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev/parts/zope2/lib/python/zope/configuration/xmlconfig.py", line 515, in include processxmlfile(f, context) File "/home/murrayc/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev/parts/zope2/lib/python/zope/configuration/xmlconfig.py", line 370, in processxmlfile parser.parse(src) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 107, in parse xmlreader.IncrementalParser.parse(self, source) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/xmlreader.py", line 123, in parse self.feed(buffer) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 207, in feed self._parser.Parse(data, isFinal) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 348, in end_element_ns self._cont_handler.endElementNS(pair, None) > > > Here's my recommendations on how to finish up those tasks as fast as > > possible: > > > > 1. Create a publicly-visible task list of what needs to get done. > > We could use http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ or another hosted > > service, such as Remember the Milk. > > There's no reason to use anything other than bugzilla.gnome.org or > live.gnome.org. > > We had already been using the "beta" version in the website product in > bugzilla, with the Plone 2 site. Most of those bugs are probalby not > worth worrying about until the Plone 3 site is up and running. Again, > nothing should distract from getting that running - please don't > distract yourselves with attempts to add new features or improvements. > > To file a new bug: > http://tinyurl.com/34orvh > > All open beta bugs: > http://tinyurl.com/32e8d2 > > > 2. Create a list of everything that needs to get done before > > launch. To make it easy for others to participate, we should > > make them very specific. ("Style the navigation portlet > > according to the styling in the mockup at ..." rather than > > "Finish CSS") > > 3. Come up with an estimate for how long each task will take. > > 4. Claim tasks. Try to complete tasks within the time estimate. > > This makes it easier to keep track of who's working on what and > > how far along they are. > > > > What are your thoughts on this? Did I leave anything out? Do you think > > a public task list would be helpful for coordinating our efforts? > > > > Cheers! > > Jonathan > > > > On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 13:05 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 20:53 -0700, Alexander Limi wrote: > > > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:47:09 -0700, Ramon Navarro Bosch > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > This saturday we are going to sprint on gnome web at the plone > > > > > conference sprint Arlington Career Center ( Washington D.C. ) > > > > > http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-conference-2008-dc/sprint . > > > > > The > > > > > idea is to have a funcional site with the visual design and features > > > > > of > > > > > www.gnome.org CMS site so every body can download a buildout and try > > > > > it, > > > > > fix bugs, ... If anybody wants to goin us will be at 9 a.m. I'll > > > > > inform > > > > > about the state of the sprint during the weekend. > > > > > > > > Since Ramon hasn't commented yet (he's probably en route to Barcelona), > > > > > > > > I'm happy to inform you that Jonathan Wilde did lots of great work on > > > > the > > > > theme + portlets, and he showed me a very nice-looking Plone 3.1 with > > > > the > > > > GNOME design. > > > > > > > > I'll let Ramon or Jonathan cover the details, but I just wanted to make > > > > > > > > sure that you know that it seemed to be a successful sprint. Now, it's > > > > time to fix the process issues around this. ;) > > > > > > Interesting, and well done, though I am not yet ready to be change our > > > plans back. I'll need to see real results to be convinced. > > > > > > Now it's time to get these changes into svn and to prove that it can be > > > deployed by someone else. > > > > > > If anyone has the ability to put up a reliable test site of this, before > > > gnome.org does, that would also be useful. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com _______________________________________________ gnome-web-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list
