Great work Carsten!
I think that putting the buildout etc... in the collective is going to be
the biggest win, in terms of encouraging contributions.
+1 on that.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Carsten Senger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Murray,
>
> for more than a year I read this list. I contributed small things during
> the decision process but had no time to do work on gnomeweb-plone.
>
> There are results of the sprint during ploneconf and Jonathan worked on
> wgo.theme since then, so I see a chance that the development comes to speed.
> Putting the buildout into the collective on svn.plone.org is one of the
> things that make it much easier to get contributions out of the plone
> community. People like me are used to it.
>
> So I tried to get involved today and find tasks that are usefull now, but
> that's really hard. The wiki and bugzilla are really outdated and there is
> no such thing like a gnomeweb-plone-team. I try to talk to the people that
> sprinted in washington in the next days.
>
> To get a better overview and make it easier for others to start I plan to
> do the following things in the next days:
>
> - I'll install a testsite on a public server and update it regulary.
>  The easiest way is to install it on my server, but I can install it to
>  any server if you want to. The testsite will be up in 1 or 2 days.
> - Then I try to update and extend the tasklist
>  http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/CmsSetup and do some more cleanup in
>  the wiki. Many things there are outdated and that makes it difficult
>  to get started
> - Work on a repeatable way to fill new sites with conent and
>  prepare content
>
> The testsite is basically plone with a basic visual theme. It does not hold
> the content that was in previews testsites. I try to fix that step by step.
> Adapting Plone to the requirements of gnome.org will take a while.
> Hopefully we can get a handfull of regulary contributing plone developers.
> Whenever we have a working state with notable progress I will update the
> testsite.
>
> We will see if gnomeweb-plone makes good progress in the next weeks.
> Setting other deadlines isn't possible in my opinion.
>
>
> Murray Cumming schrieb:
>
>> On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 19:59 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 18:00 -0700, Jonathan Wilde wrote:
>>>
>>
> [...]
>
>>
>>> Which of these are regressions compared to the Plone 2 version that was
>>> running on a test site once? I realise that you'll have to guess the
>>> answer (based on your understanding of Plone 2 & 3) because you probably
>>> never saw that site.
>>>
>>
> It's a big regression. If I understand it correctly we refactor code from
> late 2007/early 2008. It misses much funktions, design and content that I
> saw in testsites around late2006/early 2007. I also did not find an
> repository with code from 2006/early 2007. If someone has that code, it
> would be a great help. Also having a backup from an old testsite would help.
>
> There was activity around PloneSoftwareCenter (DOAP, scalability).
> PloneSoftwareCenter made substantial progress. I think most needed
> adjusments are included in upstream today.
>
>
>  In the meantime I tried to do a "buildout" of this new fork, using the
>> instructions here:
>> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/PloneImplementation
>> (Using wgo.buildout-dev instead of wgo.buildout. I guess you renamed
>> that.)
>>
>> But when running the instance, and trying to look at it in a browser, I
>> got this crash:
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev$
>> ./bin/instance fg
>> /home/murrayc/checkouts/gnome224/gnomeweb-plone-fork2/wgo.buildout-dev/parts/instance/bin/runzope
>> -X debug-mode=on
>>
>
> [...]
>
>  end_element_ns
>>    self._cont_handler.endElementNS(pair, None)
>>
>
> This was a missing file and some other small things. Jonathan fixed them
> today.
>
>
>  Here's my recommendations on how to finish up those tasks as fast as
>>>> possible:
>>>>
>>>>     1. Create a publicly-visible task list of what needs to get done.
>>>>        We could use http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ or another hosted
>>>>        service, such as Remember the Milk.
>>>>
>>> There's no reason to use anything other than bugzilla.gnome.org or
>>> live.gnome.org.
>>>
>>
> That sounds good.
>
>
>>> We had already been using the "beta" version in the website product in
>>> bugzilla, with the Plone 2 site. Most of those bugs are probalby not
>>> worth worrying about until the Plone 3 site is up and running. Again,
>>> nothing should distract from getting that running - please don't
>>> distract yourselves with attempts to add new features or improvements.
>>>
>>
> I will install a testsite within two days. But it's no continuation of the
> plone2-"beta". I did not find anything from a plone2-development that we
> could integrate. But maybe I'm missing something.
>
>
> ..Carsten
>
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