Peter Köhlmann wrote: > > Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > > > > David Kastrup wrote: > > [...] > >> > They are correct Hymen. Section 2(b) is an *illegal* contractual > >> > term. > >> > >> Just for the sake of playing with you: if that were a case, the legal > >> document would be invalid. > > > > Dak, dak, dak. Are you still in Germany? Don't you know that resulting > > from Harald Welte's "enforcement" actions in Germany, the courts ruled > > that the GPL falls under > > Fine. You might try to present a link for that claim > Posting a link to some courts decision which has obviously nothing to do > with the GPL hardly counts as "evidence" of anything. Except for the > suspicion that you are lying, again > > < snip unsupported claim >
http://www.jbb.de/urteil_lg_frankfurt_gpl.pdf The relevant part is (see page 11) "Die Lizenzbedingungen des GPL sind als allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen anzusehen, die einer Prüfung nach 305 ff. BGB unterfallen. Da die Lizenzbedingungen des GPL ohne Weiteres im Internet abrufbar sind, bestehen keine Bedenken, dass diese in das Vertragsverhältnis zwischen den Urhebern und der Beklagten einbezogen wurden (§ 305 Abs. 2 Ziff. 2 BGB)." http://www.jbb.de/judgment_dc_frankfurt_gpl.pdf "The conditions [terms] of the license granted under the GPL must be regarded as standard terms and conditions that are subject to Sections 305 et seq. of the German Civil Code (BGB). Since the conditions of the license granted by the GPL are easily available on the Internet, they were without a doubt incorporated into the contractual relationship between the authors and Defendant (Section 305, Subsection 2, No.2 of the German Civil Code (BGB))." Here's BGB § 305: http://www.rechtsrat.ws/gesetze/bgb/0305.htm (Einbeziehung Allgemeiner Geschäftsbedingungen in den Vertrag) Note the next paragraph (306): http://www.rechtsrat.ws/gesetze/bgb/0305.htm#306 (Rechtsfolgen bei Nichteinbeziehung und Unwirksamkeit) "Sind Allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen ganz oder teilweise nicht Vertragsbestandteil geworden oder unwirksam, so bleibt der Vertrag im Übrigen wirksam." regards, alexander. -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) _______________________________________________ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
