On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 00:38:25 +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: >> Moderation of this list was taken over because moderators were supposed >> to have been appointed by GNU leadership. That was a procedural error, >> which was no fault of your own and I apologize for, and has since been >> addressed so that it doesn't happen again. > > Which is a funny meta-discussion when the list is used to define what > "GNU leadership" means :)
Yes, my phrasing was intentional. I understand that you disagree with and want to change how GNU is governed, but refusing to acknowledge the current leadership doesn't change what it is. >> > The FSF keeps ignoring our calls for a neutral discussion space. >> >> The FSF is not involved in GNU governance, so why should they provide >> such a thing? > > Of course the FSF is involved in GNU governance. They raise money in > the name of GNU, we assign copyright to the FSF, they hold all our > assets, and they keep lists of people who may use those resources for > which purposes. The FSF is the legal entity which runs GNU. We should > coordinate governance issues with the FSF. There are lots of issues > which are the shared responsibility of GNU volunteers and the > FSF. After discussions on this list we sent various of those issues to > the FSF so we can better coordinate: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/2019-12/msg00026.html We're talking past one-another, which is unfortunate, because it makes it difficult to have constructive conversation. I do hope that in the near future the FSF will make a direct and unambiguous statement on this matter, because I don't see any other way to resolve this dispute. -- Mike Gerwitz
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