On 12/11/18 2:56 am, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
On 11/11/2018 6:23 AM, elvis wrote:
Seriously? Are you just telling someone to type stuff stuff in? The
WHOLE point of computers is to automate stuff.....
What if they have 1000 transactions? At a minute a transaction that a
whole day entering stuff that could be in under a SECOND....
I know if you have a hammer everything looks like a nail, but really
we should be thinking of inventing a better hammer... or eliminating
the screw entirely.
Well yes, and this used to be exactly my line of country, writing
"sproj's" (special projects; ad hoc programs) to generate thousands of
transactions. Well more like tens of thousands, which would be a lot
of end users entering by hand for day after after day. But please take
note of that "ad hoc" because almost never EXACTLY the same even when
the same type of transaction being generated. Sure, I had useful
skeletons in my library, 90+% of the program going to be the same but
needing changes before each use << my main activity my last few weeks
before retirement was to get that library indexed "this skeleton is
good for that" so junior programmers could use it >>
THAT is why this sort of thing best done OUTSIDE of gnucash, a stand
alone program (that took "instruction input" and data input) which
created a file to be imported. Not PART of gnucash because one user's
needs will not be the same as another's. To make this clear .....
Person who made the initial request ---- please describe YOUR
situation in detail. What input would you be expecting to feed this
program and how would it calculate the tax amount to be split? ALL
things sold taxed at the same rate in your jurisdiction? That would
not be true for other users. Simple rate? Or something odd for
fractions of a dollar (every state I've lived in with a sales tax had
special rules for that).
USUALLY business systems designed to handle sales have a component
that does this, usually called a POS (point of sales) component and
THAT generates transactions which feed the general ledger program <<
POS would also produce feeds to the inventory system >> Gnucash is
JUST "general ledger". Personally I think that there should be teams
working on these other sorts of systems (to have an open source POS,
and open source "inventory", etc.). However it is important to note
that POS systems are often sold by the same company that sells the
register (doing things like keeping track of cash, producing customer
receipts, etc.). Might be far fetched to expect one of these outfits
to produce something to feed gnucash << but here could sit an open
source program to CONVERT the output to what gnucash wanted >>
Michael D Novack
Hi Mike, you have very fair points there. I have often wondered how best
to implement something like this and whether or not it would be useful
to enough people to be a core feature.
My input problem is with purchases and not sales, I sell very few things
but at a high price that entering them through the business features
isn't a hassle.
And how would I implement the feature I wanted? Well the qif importer
does pretty much all of it already. All it needs is something like (Add
a split) to (debits/credits) , (Split account) (amount). That would
work for places that have a fairly fixed rate of tax like Australia's
gst and I assume vat in other places. The tax tables are already set up
and if I recall correctly linked to accounts, with a tax split account
defined. Another way would be to add the tax to anything imported to
that account.
Anyway I am not a great programmer so I am grateful for what I get, but
I have seen this query enough times over the last 10 years to sometimes
try and add some support to it.
Cheers
Lawrence
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