I thought I understood how to do this but I am confused - trying to run Gnucash on second computer and having access to the same data file. I thought I was keeping my data file on Dropbox - that is the one I open and enter data. When I go to secondary computer and open Gnucash the file has not been updated. Should I click “save as” and direct to Dropbox when closing the program and then navigating to that file in Dropbox and opening it? Is there a way to auto sync the data file to both computers? Or is there a totally different and better approach to do this? Help appreciated.
Robert L Sisk sisk....@gmail.com > On Aug 8, 2019, at 11:00 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote: > > Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Gnucash fails to run after upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to > 16.04 (Geert Janssens) > 2. Integrated documentation for GnuCash (FREIGHBER TRANSLOADERS) > 3. Newbie (S. Sliackus) > 4. Re: Gnucash fails to run after upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to > 16.04 (James E) > 5. Re: Newbie (Rich Shepard) > 6. Re: Setting up a new accounting scheme in GnuCash > (Frank ter Braak) > 7. Re: Setting up a new accounting scheme in GnuCash > (Christopher Lam) > 8. Re: Newbie (Mike or Penny Novack) > 9. Re: Gnucash fails to run after upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to > 16.04 (James E) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 10:16:18 +0200 > From: Geert Janssens <geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash fails to run after upgrade from Ubuntu > 14.04 to 16.04 > Message-ID: <3281791.952hr9h...@legolas.kobaltwit.lan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Op donderdag 8 augustus 2019 08:41:33 CEST schreef James E: >> I used to run Gnucash 2.6.12 in Ubuntu 14.04 . >> >> I upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04 . During the upgrade I was asked if I wanted >> to keep several Gnucash files/piece of information ? one of which was >> the Alpha Advantage API key . I replied that I did . >> >> The upgrade appeared to have finished successfully . All of the >> programmes/applications worked but with one exception ? Gnucash. >> >> The Gnucash loading screen and the tip of the day showed up for a several >> seconds >> and both disappeared again. >> >> I then decided to install Gnucash from the Ubuntu Software centre ? >> hoping that this would be compatible with 16.04 . So I removed the >> existing Gnucash using the Ubuntu Software centre and installed Gnucash . >> >> This failed in the same way - the Gnucash loading screen and the tip of the >> day showed up for a several seconds and both disappeared again. >> >> I found from research that Ubuntu repositories usually contain a version of >> Gnucash that is a release or two behind the latest stable version and that >> Gnucash 2.6.12 is included in Ubuntu 16.04 ? this is the same Gnucash >> version as I was using in Ubuntu 14.04 . >> >> >> I give below the terminal output when I tried to run Gnucash : >> >> jm@jm-OptiPlex-9020:~$ gnucash >> ;;; note: auto-compilation is enabled, set GUILE_AUTO_COMPILE=0 >> ;;; or pass the --no-auto-compile argument to disable. >> ;;; compiling /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/business-gnome.scm >> ;;; compiling /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/business-reports.scm >> ;;; WARNING: compilation of >> /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/business-reports.scm failed: >> ;;; ERROR: In procedure #<procedure 5611372c8120 ()>: Unbound variable: >> gnc:menuname-business-reports >> ;;; WARNING: compilation of >> /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/business-gnome.scm failed: >> ;;; ERROR: In procedure #<procedure 561136e6f180 ()>: Unbound variable: >> gnc:menuname-business-reports >> Backtrace: >> In ice-9/boot-9.scm: >> 157: 11 [catch #t #<catch-closure 561135f66c00> ...] >> In unknown file: >> ?: 10 [apply-smob/1 #<catch-closure 561135f66c00>] >> ?: 9 [call-with-input-string "(gnc:report-menu-setup)" ...] >> In ice-9/boot-9.scm: >> 2401: 8 [save-module-excursion #<procedure 56113692ecc0 at >> ice-9/eval-string.scm:65:9 ()>] >> In ice-9/eval-string.scm: >> 44: 7 [read-and-eval #<input: string 56113740f1a0> #:lang ...] >> 37: 6 [lp (gnc:report-menu-setup)] >> In gnucash/report/report-gnome.scm: >> 155: 5 [gnc:report-menu-setup] >> In unknown file: >> ?: 4 [gnc-hook-run "hook_report" ()] >> In ice-9/eval.scm: >> 387: 3 [eval # #] >> 387: 2 [eval # #] >> 393: 1 [eval #<memoized gnc:menuname-business-reports> #<directory # >> 561137149870>] >> In unknown file: >> ?: 0 [memoize-variable-access! # #] >> >> ERROR: In procedure memoize-variable-access!: >> ERROR: Unbound variable: gnc:menuname-business-reports >> jm@jm-OptiPlex-9020:~$ >> > > GnuCash is partly written in the guile language, which is a scripting > language > that supports just in time compilation of the source files. The WARNINGs > above > indicate that this is happening on your system the first time you run gnucash. > > However as gnucash should have been shipped with the proper pre-compiled > source files, this auto compilation should not have happened and is in fact > causing issues: one of the auto compilation steps fails which is why > everything seems to come to a halt. > > So it is now a matter of figuring out why this goes wrong. Colin's questions > may be a first step to get more details. > > It would also be interesting to know which version of guile is installed on > your system and possibly which version of guile was used to build gnucash. > These should be the same. > > Also what is the contents of > $HOME/.cache/guile/ccache/ > > Next, can you empty that directory and try to run gnucash again ? (It's safe > to empty this directory, it's just a build cache for guile, you won't lose > any > data). > Does it give the same error in the trace file ? > > Regards, > > Geert > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 16:59:51 -0600 > From: FREIGHBER TRANSLOADERS <s.patter...@freighber.net> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: [GNC] Integrated documentation for GnuCash > Message-ID: <9a20c4a7-7f9f-bc04-cf7a-019068d55...@freighber.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Does GNUcash allow for integrated documentation when running GNUCash? > > Steve Patterson > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 11:47:31 +0100 > From: "S. Sliackus" <ssliac...@gmail.com> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: [GNC] Newbie > Message-ID: > <cacz1v7sky0g30ze1q7vp2o+flk70lw3dx3szxbibfa-d1mr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi guys > > I am new to GnuCash. I came up with this piece of software by searching > practical solution to couple of my charities and small business. > > I have quite mixed feelings about this program, I found some things over > complicated (some invoicing aspects, customer list and search, transactions > split etc etc) some things inconsistent and some things missing (cash > basis vs accrual basis, transactions print/export from viewing screen etc. > etc.) and some working bad (import of list 1-2000 transactions took at > about 5-8 minutes (while kmymoney did that job in few seconds), but I've > found some things that I really love - reconciliation tool, range of > reports and some other. > > As a new user, I didn't learned how to achieve certain tasks yet, so my > feedback might not be relevant sometimes, but that is why I came here and I > hope this will be right place to get and give an advice :-) > > Thanks have a nice day everyone. > > Saulius > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 06:40:09 -0500 (CDT) > From: James E <jimmy...@hotmail.co.uk> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash fails to run after upgrade from Ubuntu > 14.04 to 16.04 > Message-ID: <1565264409402-0.p...@n4.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Colin . Commands show : > > jm@jm-OptiPlex-9020:~$ which gnucash > /usr/bin/gnucash > jm@jm-OptiPlex-9020:~$ apt-cache policy gnucash > gnucash: > Installed: 1:2.6.12-1 > Candidate: 1:2.6.12-1 > Version table: > *** 1:2.6.12-1 500 > 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > jm@jm-OptiPlex-9020:~$ > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 05:40:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Newbie > Message-ID: <alpine.lnx.2.20.1908080536300.9...@salmo.appl-ecosys.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >> On Thu, 8 Aug 2019, S. Sliackus wrote: >> >> As a new user, I didn't learned how to achieve certain tasks yet, so my >> feedback might not be relevant sometimes, but that is why I came here and >> I hope this will be right place to get and give an advice :-) > > Have you read the help/tutorial or guide? Almost all answers to your implied > questions can be found there. And, for cash accounting rather than accrual > accounting don't post invoices until the payments are received. > > Start using gnucash and you'll figure out how to make it work for you, > especially if you search the mail list archives for specific issues. > > Rich > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 15:01:03 +0200 > From: Frank ter Braak <frankterbr...@gmail.com> > To: GnuCash User <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Setting up a new accounting scheme in GnuCash > Message-ID: <cf892464-fa8a-444a-80ec-a82c8ed05...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks for all the help and suggestions!!! > Very happy but not sue yet if it really got clear yet. > > Now I wonder: > > Does it really matter that much what type I use for a new account? And could > I change this Type as I find out I was wrong or think an other might be more > convenient? As long as I put credit and debit right it might not influence > the calculations... > > Or does the program handles my data very different or is only the sorting > different? > But I can choose to sort by group or by number as well I think. > > (I have been doing my own accounting for over 20 years, including complicated > export from Filemaker, converting it and importing the journal records in my > accounting software. But now changing to GnuCash everything seems different > and I feel a newbee very much. And I am not a educated accountant too.) > > Greetings Frank ter Braak > > > > > >> Op 8 aug. 2019, om 00:13 heeft Adrien Monteleone >> <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> het volgende geschreven: >> >> Ah, thanks for the clarification. >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger >>> <frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Adrien, >>> >>> part of the confusion might be: >>> Frank asked for the account type to create a few, which you tried to answer. >>> I saw, the requested accounts were already defined in the template and >>> referenced the group containing them, not the type itself. >>> >>> Am Mi., 7. Aug. 2019 um 21:54 Uhr schrieb Adrien Monteleone >>> <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net>: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 2:41 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger >>>>> <frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> 7 Kostpijs rekeningen (Cost price bills?) >>>>>>> This is where I book my bikes if I buy them from my supplier during the >>>>>>> year. It will raise my Assets I suppose. >>>>>> >>>>>> These are the invoices from the supplier or the value of the bikes >>>>>> themselves? If the bikes, that would be inventory above, if the >>>>>> invoices, that would be Accounts Payable - a liability. >>>>> >>>>> Not quite, while buying they increase VOORADEN, on sale they move to >>>>> INKOOPWARDE VAN DE UMZET. >>>> >>>> So Cost of Goods Sold? That would be an expense account. Curious that NL >>>> mixes purchases (inventory) with COGS rather than separating them out. >>> >>> No, it is the same: >>> VOORADEN/Inventory: Activa/assets >>> INKOOPWARDE VAN DE UMZET/Cost of Goods Sold: Kosten/expense >>> UMZET/Goods Sold: Opbrengsten/income >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Adrien >>> >>> Regards >>> Frank >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> ----- >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 13:08:41 +0000 > From: Christopher Lam <christopher....@gmail.com> > To: Frank ter Braak <frankterbr...@gmail.com> > Cc: GnuCash User <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Setting up a new accounting scheme in GnuCash > Message-ID: > <cakvazzlsv0+eqbwfrafripisjvhxaa9j52uyntvanjcglun...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >> From my understanding, the account-type is mainly used in reports. > Otherwise you're right, you can tweak any account-type at leisure within > limits eg can't change currency-type account to stock-type account; > subaccounts of Asset/Liability/Income/Expense are limited according to the > parent-type. > > e.g. Net worth reports will calculate asset balance less liability balance. > > C > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 13:02, Frank ter Braak <frankterbr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks for all the help and suggestions!!! >> Very happy but not sue yet if it really got clear yet. >> >> Now I wonder: >> >> Does it really matter that much what type I use for a new account? And >> could I change this Type as I find out I was wrong or think an other might >> be more convenient? As long as I put credit and debit right it might not >> influence the calculations... >> >> Or does the program handles my data very different or is only the sorting >> different? >> But I can choose to sort by group or by number as well I think. >> >> (I have been doing my own accounting for over 20 years, including >> complicated export from Filemaker, converting it and importing the journal >> records in my accounting software. But now changing to GnuCash everything >> seems different and I feel a newbee very much. And I am not a educated >> accountant too.) >> >> Greetings Frank ter Braak >> >> >> >> >> >>> Op 8 aug. 2019, om 00:13 heeft Adrien Monteleone < >> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> Ah, thanks for the clarification. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Adrien >>> >>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger < >> frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Adrien, >>>> >>>> part of the confusion might be: >>>> Frank asked for the account type to create a few, which you tried to >> answer. >>>> I saw, the requested accounts were already defined in the template and >>>> referenced the group containing them, not the type itself. >>>> >>>> Am Mi., 7. Aug. 2019 um 21:54 Uhr schrieb Adrien Monteleone >>>> <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net>: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 2:41 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger < >> frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 7 Kostpijs rekeningen (Cost price >> bills?) >>>>>>>> This is where I book my bikes if I buy them from my supplier during >> the year. It will raise my Assets I suppose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These are the invoices from the supplier or the value of the bikes >> themselves? If the bikes, that would be inventory above, if the invoices, >> that would be Accounts Payable - a liability. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not quite, while buying they increase VOORADEN, on sale they move to >>>>>> INKOOPWARDE VAN DE UMZET. >>>>> >>>>> So Cost of Goods Sold? That would be an expense account. Curious that >> NL mixes purchases (inventory) with COGS rather than separating them out. >>>> >>>> No, it is the same: >>>> VOORADEN/Inventory: Activa/assets >>>> INKOOPWARDE VAN DE UMZET/Cost of Goods Sold: Kosten/expense >>>> UMZET/Goods Sold: Opbrengsten/income >>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Adrien >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Frank >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> ----- >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> ----- >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 09:30:35 -0400 > From: Mike or Penny Novack <stepbystepf...@comcast.net> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Newbie > Message-ID: <0205be25-8660-41fa-3b79-0e74616fe...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >> On 8/8/2019 6:47 AM, S. Sliackus wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> I am new to GnuCash. I came up with this piece of software by searching >> practical solution to couple of my charities and small business. >> >> I have quite mixed feelings about this program, I found some things over >> complicated (some invoicing aspects, customer list and search, transactions >> split etc etc) some things inconsistent and some things missing (cash >> basis vs accrual basis, transactions print/export from viewing screen etc. >> etc.) and some working bad (import of list > Some of this is misconception. True, you can only use the business > features like invoicing when on the accrual basis << this perhaps should > be addressed -- not only do many organizations keep books on the cash > basis (but would like to be able to produce invoices for members) but > some businesses by tradition/law use cash >>. But otherwise you can most > certainly specify either cash or accrual. > > And for those asking about setting up books but finding the "templates" > do not match their needs the solution is simple. Just set up your CoA > the way you need it or your accountant advises. You do NOT have to use > any of the templates. > > Michael D Novack > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 08:32:17 -0500 (CDT) > From: James E <jimmy...@hotmail.co.uk> > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash fails to run after upgrade from Ubuntu > 14.04 to 16.04 > Message-ID: <1565271137773-0.p...@n4.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > gnucash_fail_20190806_04.odt > <http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/file/t376064/gnucash_fail_20190806_04.odt> > > > Q Which version of guile is installed on the system. > > A > jm@jm-OptiPlex-9020:~$ guile -v > guile (GNU Guile) 2.0.11 > Packaged by Debian (2.0.11-deb+1-10ubuntu0.1) > Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > License LGPLv3+: GNU LGPL 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html>. > This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. > There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. > > Q Which version of guile was used to build gnucash . > > A I do not know how to do this . > > Q Also what is the contents of > $HOME/.cache/guile/ccache/ > > A There is folder " 2.0-LE-8-2.0 " with sub folders below. > > I deleted this file and ran gnucash again . > The attached file show the output at the terminal. > Gnucash now runs successfully . > > *Geert thank you very much . > * > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of gnucash-user Digest, Vol 197, Issue 15 > ********************************************* _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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