When I say entry, I refer to the entire transaction, but I get your point.


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-------- Original message --------
From: "David T." <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
Date: 6/18/22 4:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org, Gyle McCollam <gmccol...@live.com>, David Carlson 
<david.carlson....@gmail.com>, Kevin T <neviki...@yahoo.com>
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

Gyle,

Whether you delete the imbalance account or not once it is empty is a user 
preference. Some dislike seeing the imbalance account in their books, and 
delete it if it is empty. Others (like myself and you) leave that account in 
place. I leave it because it just reappears again later anyways when you miss 
an entry.

Also, I'll note that you made a misleading statement late in the first 
paragraph when you said that "If he deletes the entry, he will delete it from 
the other accounts as well." In this instance, I think you meant to say "If he 
deletes the **transaction,** he will delete it from the other accounts as 
well." It's a minor, yet significant, difference in terminology. An entry (as I 
understand) is the single line within a transaction, synonymous with the 
Gnucash term "split." The Transaction is made up of two or more splits/entries.

Best,
David T.

On June 18, 2022 2:57:01 PM EDT, Gyle McCollam <gmccol...@live.com> wrote:

I agree that the matching step is critical when importing and the proper 
account should be assigned during import.  I also agree that the OP needs to 
understand Double Entry accounting better,  However, if he has "empty" 
transactions in the imbalance account, my bet is that if he clicks on the split 
icon in the toolbar, he will see his debit and credit accounts, plus the empty 
imbalance account.  When correcting the imbalance entry, he needs to open the 
split and click on the imbalance entry and change that to the proper account.  
I think he added the proper account, entered the amount, then removed the 
amount from the imbalance account. Doing it this way you can't delete the 
imbalance account, unless you "jump" to one of the other accounts and delete it 
from there.  If he deletes the entry, he will delete it from the other accounts 
as well, which he doesn't want to do.
  You state that "Once all funds are re-allocated there should be no entries 
remaining and you can safely delete that account."  You don't delete the 
account, once there are no entries the account it is irrelevant and if you have 
it set to not display unused accounts you won't see it unless in the future 
there is another entry in there,


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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________________________________
From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail....@gnucash.org> on 
behalf of David Carlson <david.carlson....@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 1:59 PM
To: Kevin T <neviki...@yahoo.com>
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

First, Imbalance-USD is not an expense account but a top level account, and
it is intended to be used only when an automated function is unable to form
a fully balanced transaction.  You are correct that you can look under that
account name to find unbalanced transactions if and when they exist.

You might find it useful to re-read about double entry bookkeeping in the
various help resources.  The F1 key should work while in GnuCash.

We never use the term "Category" to refer to anything in GnuCash, not even
"Expense" Accounts.

The fact that you are finding "empty" transactions there indicates that you
are not always deleting references to that account after re-allocating
funds to the desired account.  Once all funds are re-allocated there should
be no entries remaining and you can safely delete that account.  It will be
re-created if new transactions appear.

As you noticed, double-clicking is nearly useless in GnuCash.  It does work
to change the sort order of columns in some windows.

When using an import function, GnuCash is trying to learn what Account
transactions have been applied to in the past so it can try to use the same
account with similar transactions.  That is why it is important to use the
"Matching" step to correct account assignments before the import process is
closed.

Lastly, text files in Windows OS always use CR-LF, but other OS's mostly
use CR.  This creates confusion when viewing text files in other OS's.


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:54 AM Kevin T via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

 I have been populating my accounts with CSV.  During the import, the tool
 doesn't have any existing transactions to match, so most of them get
 assigned the expense category 'Imbalance-USD'.
 I am to the point of making sure that accounts are reconciled and
 transactions don't have left over or bad account assignments.  Since
 Imbalance is one of those expense categories I thought that would be a good
 place to make sure things are clean.
 I double click that expense category and the tab populates.Most of these
 entries have no value in either the deposit or withdrawal columns.Some
 do.Some even have a transfer account defined and values.
 Sooo..  the stupid questions..
 If they have a transfer account and values already specified, why is this
 transaction in this expense category?How do I find out from which account
 these transactions were originally created?  double clicking does
 nothing.If they contain no values, is it safe to delete them?
 I did import a number of times, trying figuring out the import behavior,
 into temp or no longer existing accounts.  Are these left over after
 deleting these accounts?
 version 4.1 windows.
 I have noticed that my original emails contain a ? for every CRLF that
 occurs, when the mailing list distributes this.  I am using yahoo mail to
 send this.   Is there a way to stop this ? mark 'feature'??

 Kevin
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