On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 18:30:44 -0700 Vincent Dawans wrote: >Pierre: > >On this point in particular: >> Worse, typing "Pens<TAB>" auto-populated an old "Camper expenses" entry >which >> now had to be canceled and restarted. > >This was an issue in early 5 releases but as far as I know 5.3 no longer >does a mid-word match so it should no longer happen in 5.3. In fact a lot >of the old 4.x behavior such as giving priority to recent matches and start >of string matches has been brought back in 5.3 so I would give it a try.
Version: 5.3 Build ID: 5.3+(2023-06-26) pens<TAB> is my test; there are many entries displayed when I type 'p'; at 'pe', it's down to just 'Amazon - pens' (at least 'Camper expenses' is no longer in the list; but at 'pens', 'Amazon - pens' is still available and it get auto-filled on TAB -- not what I expected... At TAB, the entry should be considered a match if the entire typed string is a match, otherwise it should be considered a new unique entry. If a visible selection is what is desired, then that can be selected directly. However, it's still forcing a change to the user's years long muscle memory actions... Stated differently: if the user enters 'pens' and 'Amazon - pens' is in the list, TAB should assume the entered characters are the complete entry, not what's in the list, even if it's the only match; that should be explicitly selected. Otherwise, creating a new unique entry becomes convoluted... HTH, Pierre >Sincerely, > >Vincent > >On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 4:17 PM Pierre Fortin <p...@pfortin.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 16:31:55 +0000 Gyle McCollam wrote: >> >> >Pierre, >> >you stated you have to: >> >new method: >> > +|-. TAB, TAB, p(long list with "Don't Autocomplete" at top, >> > up-arrow, ENTER, pr(still long list with "Don't Autocomplete" at top, >> > up-arrow, ENTER, pre(still long list with "Don't Autocomplete" at top, >> >arrows or mouse actions once enough characters have been entered to >> >reduce the list where last month's transaction is now visible, etc... >> > >> >I don't understand why you need to up arrow after each character. You >> can type "p", then "r", then "e" just like you used to do. You can type as >> many letters as you need without selecting "Don't Autocomplete" which is >> what you seem to be saying. >> >> No, I don't have to up-arrow; but I was trying to make the point that the >> new method has added a lot of extra visual cruft and confusion. Worse, >> typing "Pens<TAB>" auto-populated an old "Camper expenses" entry which >> now had to be canceled and restarted. >> >> The old method matched just the beginning while the new matches anything >> resulting in too much visual data. For a new user with little historical >> data, this may be fine; but a long time user can have hundreds of entries >> which adds to the wasted time getting the job done. >> >> The old way, I only needed to type 1 or 2 characters; now, I have to type >> many more characters to narrow the list down to last month's entry... >> >> I'm not trying to dis the new method; it may be fine for some... but >> having the option to choose would be appreciated: one checkbox and: >> if old: >> ... >> elif new: >> ... >> >> There's a lot of history in some GNC users' data; but it doesn't need to >> be put front and center on every new entry... >> >> HTH, >> Pierre >> >> >Thank You, >> > >> >Gyle McCollam >> > >> >Gyle McCollam >> > >> >gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com> email >> > >> >________________________________ >> >From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail....@gnucash.org> >> on behalf of Pierre Fortin <p...@pfortin.com> >> >Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2023 12:11 PM >> >To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >> >Subject: Re: [GNC] How to revert to previous input mode? >> > >> >On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 11:40:38 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: >> > >> >resetting this thread to restate since GNC was updated from 5.1 to 5.3 a >> >few days ago.... >> > >> >>GnuCash 5.3 >> >>Build ID: 5.3+(2023-06-26) >> > >> >>>Operating System: Mageia 9 >> >>>KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5 >> >>>KDE Frameworks Version: 5.105.0 >> >>>Qt Version: 5.15.7 >> >>>Kernel Version: 6.3.9-server-2.mga9 (64-bit) >> >>>Graphics Platform: X11 >> >>>Processors: 20 × 12th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-12700K >> >>>Memory: 125.5 GiB of RAM >> >>>Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT >> >>>Manufacturer: Dell Inc. >> >>>Product Name: XPS 8950 >> > >> > >> >>>>There's been a whole lot of turmoil and change in this area over the >> last few months, the upshot of which is that autofill has changed a lot >> between 5.2 and 5.3. 5.4, which should be releasing soon (to fix another >> serious bug) might address your concerns. >> >>>> >> >>>>David T. >> > >> >I really don't like the new input mechanism. It results is much extra >> >interaction: >> > >> >old method to enter a monthly recurring transaction: >> > +|- to change date, TAB, TAB, p[revious tansaction], TAB, ENTER (done) >> > >> >new method: >> > +|-. TAB, TAB, p(long list with "Don't Autocomplete" at top, >> > up-arrow, ENTER, pr(still long list with "Don't Autocomplete" at top, >> > up-arrow, ENTER, pre(still long list with "Don't Autocomplete" at top, >> >arrows or mouse actions once enough characters have been entered to >> >reduce the list where last month's transaction is now visible, etc... >> > >> >With LOTS of one-of entries since 2006, the new method is less than >> >friendly. I can appreciate that it may work for some [new] GNC users; but >> >the original method is much better/faster for long term users users with a >> >huge history of entries. Besides, typical use is to process mostly the >> >same transactions month to month where the old method excelled... >> > >> >Given an option, I would select the old method as it was MUCH faster. >> > >> >Thanks, >> >Pierre >> > >> >>>>On Jul 1, 2023, 16:33, at 16:33, Pierre Fortin <p...@pfortin.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>>Hi, >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Having used gnucash for many years, I've been quite happy with all my >> >>>>>built-in history where most new entries could be done in a minimum of >> >>>>>keystrokes. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>The new interface where it offers all(?) the possible choices is >> >>>>>driving >> >>>>>my nuts. This change has slowed down data and entry wasting time... >> >>>>> In my late 70s; this matters! >> >>>>> >> >>>>>This morning, trying to enter "Pens", it insists on picking "Camper >> >>>>>expenses" unless I grab the mouse and click where TAB was all I >> >>>>> needed. >> >>>>> ^^^^ >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Is there a way to revert back to the previous interface? This should >> >>>>>be >> >>>>>a choice in settings. Maybe it's there; but I haven't found it... >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Thanks for an otherwise great program, >> >>>>>Pierre >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >gnucash-user mailing list >> >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> >----- >> >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> _______________________________________________ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> ----- >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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