One could hope Apple will fix bugs in a timely manner :-p.  

So what should I do to workaround this bug or am I hosed?

Ernie


> On 21 May 2024, at 1:21 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
> 
> Hah! I didn’t even notice that. It’s pretty funny.
> 
> The *file system* is by default case-preserving, meaning that you can create 
> either macOS or MacOS but not both; preserving means that it will keep 
> whichever one you create first. The shell is too, though Bash completion is 
> case-sensitive. Apparently dlopen is case-sensitive too: when we call 
> `dlopen(/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib,
>  0x0009)` it fails to find the file. You can see this yourself by running 
>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli --debug —logto=stdout 
> -Q info
> It’s in the first line of output.
> 
> I’m going to file a bug with Apple on that if it’s still true when the first 
> macOS 15 developer beta comes out in 3 weeks. Maybe they’ll fix it.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2024, at 18:07, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Very strange.  I get two results.
>> 
>> First, following your instructions, by coping and pasting
>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % zsh -df
>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
>> Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules JSON::Parse
>> 
>> But when I type in the command line:
>> 
>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
>> * 11:01:28  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from 
>> relative path 
>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-dbi not found.
>> * 11:01:28  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from 
>> relative path 
>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-xml not found.
>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
>> 'source != NULL' failed
>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' 
>> failed
>> * 11:01:28  WARN <gnc.app-utils.gsettings> 
>> [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown 
>> gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
>> zsh: segmentation fault  
>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>> 
>> The two command lines are seemingly the same, but the difference is macOS 
>> and MacOS.  I thought the shell was not case sensitive.  hmmmm  The behavior 
>> is the same when I exit from the default shell.
>> 
>> I did check the directory and it is MacOS.
>> 
>> Ernie-Mac-mini% cd /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents
>> Ernie-Mac-mini% ls
>> Info.plist   MacOS           PkgInfo         Resources       _CodeSignature
>> Ernie-Mac-mini% 
>> 
>> Odd that it would behave differently.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> Ernie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2024, at 2:50 AM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ernie,
>>> 
>>> The double slash is present in my output too, and it’s harmless. 
>>> 
>>> That shows that the app bundle is complete and uncorrupted. Something is 
>>> getting in the way of dlopen finding those two libraries.
>>> 
>>> Try getting a purely default shell environment by running 
>>>    zsh -df
>>> That opens a new sub shell with no environment variables set and ignoring 
>>> all of your zsh config files. You can quit back to your regular shell with 
>>> <control>d, but first try running 
>>>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>> 
>>>> On May 19, 2024, at 22:22, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks John,
>>>> 
>>>> I ran the below commands and this is what I got.
>>>> 
>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % spctl --assess -vv 
>>>> /applications/gnucash.app
>>>> /applications/gnucash.app: accepted
>>>> source=Notarized Developer ID
>>>> origin=Developer ID Application: John D Ralls (Y9EHT5WMK7)
>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % otool -L 
>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib
>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib:
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-backend-sql.dylib 
>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-engine.dylib (compatibility 
>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libdbi.3.dylib (compatibility version 
>>>> 4.0.0, current version 4.0.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-core-utils.dylib 
>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_regex.dylib (compatibility 
>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_date_time.dylib 
>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicui18n.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicuuc.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicudata.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility 
>>>> version 13.0.0, current version 13.0.0)
>>>>    @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>    /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
>>>> 1300.36.0)
>>>>    /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
>>>> version 1319.0.0)
>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % 
>>>> 
>>>> Compared to your output, the only difference I can find is in the first 
>>>> line where I have a double slash:
>>>> 
>>>> @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>> 
>>>> Just eyeballing, everything else looks the same. Could this double slash 
>>>> be causing me troubles?
>>>> 
>>>> Ernie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 20 May 2024, at 1:52 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 19, 2024, at 18:03, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First time user of this mailing list and just starting to use gnucash.  
>>>>>> Been transferring information over from Quicken and I am getting things 
>>>>>> close to the way I would like.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am trying to download stock prices, but getting the following errors.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini ~ % 
>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>>>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
>>>>>> * 11:59:02  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from 
>>>>>> relative path 
>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-dbi not 
>>>>>> found.
>>>>>> * 11:59:02  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from 
>>>>>> relative path 
>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-xml not 
>>>>>> found.
>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
>>>>>> 'source != NULL' failed
>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != 
>>>>>> NULL' failed
>>>>>> * 11:59:02  WARN <gnc.app-utils.gsettings> 
>>>>>> [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown 
>>>>>> gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
>>>>>> zsh: segmentation fault  
>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini ~ % 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As you can tell, I am on a Mac Mini running Sonoma 14.4.1 (latest?).  
>>>>>> Looks like I may be missing some files.  Tried the wiki and other search 
>>>>>> engines but not finding any answers.  How can I resolve the above?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not quite the latest macOS version, 14.5 dropped last week. That’s 
>>>>> unlikely to matter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The two files that it can’t find, libgncmon-backend-dbi.dylib and 
>>>>> libgncmod-backend-xml.dylib, should be in 
>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Rsources/lib/gnucash. If you have 
>>>>> Xcode or Xcode command line tools installed and they’re present you can 
>>>>> run e.g.
>>>>>  otool -L 
>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib
>>>>> The output should be
>>>>> Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib:
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-backend-sql.dylib 
>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-engine.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libdbi.3.dylib (compatibility version 
>>>>> 4.0.0, current version 4.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-core-utils.dylib 
>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_regex.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_date_time.dylib 
>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicui18n.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicuuc.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicudata.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 13.0.0, current version 13.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>   /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
>>>>> 1300.36.0)
>>>>>   /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
>>>>> version 1319.0.0)
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can check that the application bundle is complete and matches its 
>>>>> code signature with
>>>>>  spctl —assess -vv /Applications/Gnucash.app
>>>>> It should report
>>>>>  /Applications/Gnucash.app/: accepted
>>>>>  source=Notarized Developer ID
>>>>>  origin=Developer ID Application: John D Ralls (Y9EHT5WMK7)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> John Ralls
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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