HI John and Gnucash Supporters,

I was afraid you were going to say that.  As far as I can tell, I have 
JSON::Parse installed, but gnucash-cli is not finding it.

Ernie-Mac-mini% cpan JSON::Parse
Loading internal logger. Log::Log4perl recommended for better logging
Reading '/Users/Ernie_1/.cpan/Metadata'
  Database was generated on Tue, 21 May 2024 02:17:02 GMT
JSON::Parse is up to date (0.62).
Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules JSON::Parse

Sorry to keep troubling you.

Reards,
Ernie
Just an old FORTRAN programmer


> On 22 May 2024, at 1:48 AM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
> 
> Depends on the bug. Just like every other development team they have more 
> bugs than engineers so they have to prioritize. Some things get fixed 
> quickly, others take a while, and some never get attention. I don’t know who 
> maintains the libc that Apple uses. If it’s FreeBSD then they won’t consider 
> it a bug because their file systems are case sensitive.
> 
> As for what to do, that should be obvious: Spell the path correctly, where 
> spell includes case.
> You also need to run gnc-update-fq again to get JSON::Parse installed.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>> On May 20, 2024, at 22:00, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> One could hope Apple will fix bugs in a timely manner :-p.  
>> 
>> So what should I do to workaround this bug or am I hosed?
>> 
>> Ernie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2024, at 1:21 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hah! I didn’t even notice that. It’s pretty funny.
>>> 
>>> The *file system* is by default case-preserving, meaning that you can 
>>> create either macOS or MacOS but not both; preserving means that it will 
>>> keep whichever one you create first. The shell is too, though Bash 
>>> completion is case-sensitive. Apparently dlopen is case-sensitive too: when 
>>> we call 
>>> `dlopen(/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib,
>>>  0x0009)` it fails to find the file. You can see this yourself by running 
>>>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli --debug 
>>> —logto=stdout -Q info
>>> It’s in the first line of output.
>>> 
>>> I’m going to file a bug with Apple on that if it’s still true when the 
>>> first macOS 15 developer beta comes out in 3 weeks. Maybe they’ll fix it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 20, 2024, at 18:07, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Very strange.  I get two results.
>>>> 
>>>> First, following your instructions, by coping and pasting
>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % zsh -df
>>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q 
>>>> info
>>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
>>>> Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules JSON::Parse
>>>> 
>>>> But when I type in the command line:
>>>> 
>>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q 
>>>> info
>>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
>>>> * 11:01:28  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from 
>>>> relative path 
>>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-dbi not 
>>>> found.
>>>> * 11:01:28  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from 
>>>> relative path 
>>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-xml not 
>>>> found.
>>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
>>>> 'source != NULL' failed
>>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != 
>>>> NULL' failed
>>>> * 11:01:28  WARN <gnc.app-utils.gsettings> 
>>>> [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown 
>>>> gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
>>>> zsh: segmentation fault  
>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>>> 
>>>> The two command lines are seemingly the same, but the difference is macOS 
>>>> and MacOS.  I thought the shell was not case sensitive.  hmmmm  The 
>>>> behavior is the same when I exit from the default shell.
>>>> 
>>>> I did check the directory and it is MacOS.
>>>> 
>>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% cd /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents
>>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% ls
>>>> Info.plist MacOS           PkgInfo         Resources       _CodeSignature
>>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% 
>>>> 
>>>> Odd that it would behave differently.
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Ernie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 May 2024, at 2:50 AM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ernie,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The double slash is present in my output too, and it’s harmless. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That shows that the app bundle is complete and uncorrupted. Something is 
>>>>> getting in the way of dlopen finding those two libraries.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Try getting a purely default shell environment by running 
>>>>>    zsh -df
>>>>> That opens a new sub shell with no environment variables set and ignoring 
>>>>> all of your zsh config files. You can quit back to your regular shell 
>>>>> with <control>d, but first try running 
>>>>>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> John Ralls
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 19, 2024, at 22:22, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I ran the below commands and this is what I got.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % spctl --assess -vv 
>>>>>> /applications/gnucash.app
>>>>>> /applications/gnucash.app: accepted
>>>>>> source=Notarized Developer ID
>>>>>> origin=Developer ID Application: John D Ralls (Y9EHT5WMK7)
>>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % otool -L 
>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib
>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib:
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-backend-sql.dylib 
>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-engine.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libdbi.3.dylib (compatibility version 
>>>>>> 4.0.0, current version 4.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-core-utils.dylib 
>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_regex.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_date_time.dylib 
>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicui18n.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicuuc.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicudata.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 13.0.0, current version 13.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>>  /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
>>>>>> 1300.36.0)
>>>>>>  /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
>>>>>> version 1319.0.0)
>>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Compared to your output, the only difference I can find is in the first 
>>>>>> line where I have a double slash:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just eyeballing, everything else looks the same. Could this double slash 
>>>>>> be causing me troubles?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ernie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 20 May 2024, at 1:52 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2024, at 18:03, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> First time user of this mailing list and just starting to use gnucash. 
>>>>>>>>  Been transferring information over from Quicken and I am getting 
>>>>>>>> things close to the way I would like.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am trying to download stock prices, but getting the following errors.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini ~ % 
>>>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>>>>>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
>>>>>>>> * 11:59:02  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from 
>>>>>>>> relative path 
>>>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-dbi not 
>>>>>>>> found.
>>>>>>>> * 11:59:02  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from 
>>>>>>>> relative path 
>>>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-xml not 
>>>>>>>> found.
>>>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
>>>>>>>> 'source != NULL' failed
>>>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != 
>>>>>>>> NULL' failed
>>>>>>>> * 11:59:02  WARN <gnc.app-utils.gsettings> 
>>>>>>>> [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown 
>>>>>>>> gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
>>>>>>>> zsh: segmentation fault  
>>>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>>>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini ~ % 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As you can tell, I am on a Mac Mini running Sonoma 14.4.1 (latest?).  
>>>>>>>> Looks like I may be missing some files.  Tried the wiki and other 
>>>>>>>> search engines but not finding any answers.  How can I resolve the 
>>>>>>>> above?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not quite the latest macOS version, 14.5 dropped last week. That’s 
>>>>>>> unlikely to matter.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The two files that it can’t find, libgncmon-backend-dbi.dylib and 
>>>>>>> libgncmod-backend-xml.dylib, should be in 
>>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Rsources/lib/gnucash. If you have 
>>>>>>> Xcode or Xcode command line tools installed and they’re present you can 
>>>>>>> run e.g.
>>>>>>>  otool -L 
>>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib
>>>>>>> The output should be
>>>>>>> Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib:
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>> @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-backend-sql.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-engine.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libdbi.3.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>>> version 4.0.0, current version 4.0.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-core-utils.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_regex.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_date_time.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicui18n.73.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicuuc.73.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicudata.73.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libintl.8.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 13.0.0, current version 13.0.0)
>>>>>>>         @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib 
>>>>>>> (compatibility version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>>>         /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
>>>>>>> version 1300.36.0)
>>>>>>>         /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, 
>>>>>>> current version 1319.0.0)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can check that the application bundle is complete and matches its 
>>>>>>> code signature with
>>>>>>>  spctl —assess -vv /Applications/Gnucash.app
>>>>>>> It should report
>>>>>>>  /Applications/Gnucash.app/: accepted
>>>>>>>  source=Notarized Developer ID
>>>>>>>  origin=Developer ID Application: John D Ralls (Y9EHT5WMK7)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> John Ralls
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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