I had not thought of setting "Unlikely Match" to zero. I'll give it a try (when I get home) and we'll see. Thanks----Eric.

On 8/28/2024 2:20 PM, David Carlson wrote:
I completely overlooked the setting called Unlikely Match. Over the years our family has had a couple of characters that didn't deposit their birthday checks for months (I was one of them), but we don't send them checks any more.

Anyway, I would call that a bug if the match is not shown at all when it is "Unlikely".  The unlikely transaction should still appear but marked as "do not import" or some similar marking, in my opinion.  If the time limit cannot be extended beyond 50 days, there should be an option to turn off that test. Did you try setting the limit to zero?   I have seen reports on this maillist that sometimes banks still accept 'stale' checks, when most banks have a reasonably short time limit around 60 to 90 days or even less.

I wonder how that test is applied when the bank normally shows the date cleared rather than the date written for checks.  The only way one would know is by the date shown in the check image, when it is actually legible.  Does Gnucash go by the difference between the <DTPOSTED> and one of the other dates in OFX/QFX files?



On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 9:40 AM Eric H. Bowen <e...@ehbowen.net> wrote:

    In my experience with the software that is not the case. True, you
    can reconcile any transaction...but only within a limited window
    of time. Now, if you have an uncleared transaction in your
    register dated November 8th, 2022 and the .OFX file downloaded
    from your bank indicates that the check cleared on November 14th,
    2022 you can match it, even though it's (nearly) two years later.
    But if the bank said that the transaction didn't clear until
    March...it doesn't even show up as an option under "Match
    Manually." Believe me, been there, done that.

    The key setting appears to be "Unlikely match day threshold,"
    under Edit>>Preferences>>Import. I've got that maxed out at 50
    days; it will not go any higher than that. So if the transaction
    your bank reports is farther away than that from the entry in your
    register...you don't even see the transaction when you go to match
    it. It just doesn't appear.

    On 8/27/2024 4:47 PM, David Carlson wrote:

    I think gmail sent my half written response. You can match any
    unrrconciled transaction in the transaction import tool.  If you
    cannot find the correct transaction you probably already matchrd
    it in a previous import.
    You can mark the transaction as do not import and re-run the
    impprt later when you have decided how to correct that entry.
    If you are using both of those tools as intended, GnuCash does
    not lose the correct status of any transacion, regardless of how
    or when it was entered.

    Sorry about the fat finger spelling errors.


    On Tue, Aug 27, 2024, 4:32 PM David Carlson
    <david.carlson....@gmail.com> wrote:

        Gnucash only marks transactions cleared when you use the
        reconciliation tool.  All uncleared transaction, no matter
        how old, are available to match in the import transaction


        On Tue, Aug 27, 2024, 1:27 PM Ken Pyzik <py...@outlook.com>
        wrote:

            Well, you could just not use the clearing function at all
            – which is what I do.

            If fact, all my transactions have an "n" on them in
            Gnucash.  Instead, of trying to figure out what cleared,
            I assume everything clears.   This makes for a much
            easier task - since almost 100% of transactions do clear
            - I only have to worry about the one's that don't - which
            for me - is almost none anyway.

            But everyone's situation is different.  For me – clearing
            is just added worked I choose not to do.

            Ken

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            From: gnucash-user
            <gnucash-user-bounces+pyz01=outlook....@gnucash.org> on
            behalf of Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user
            <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
            Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 9:51 AM
            To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
            Subject: [GNC] Checks outstanding...VERY outstanding!

            I have a few vendors and charities whom I still pay with
            paper checks
            (they're not eligible for my bank's electronic payment
            system), and some
            of them are very lackadaisical about cashing those
            checks. It's not
            unusual for one of them to sit on a check for three
            months before it
            finally shows up in my bank's payment queue...by which
            time it's long
            past even the maximum possible setting on GnuCash for
            manually matching
            a check. More annoying, and this has happened several
            times, is if I
            don't watch the match game with an eagle eye GnuCash will
            then assume
            that the paper check from a month and a half ago which
            just cleared is
            actually the one which is supposed to go out tomorrow and
            will mark *it*
            cleared...and then there's no way to "unclear" it in the
            matching
            algorithm. Oh, I can manually hit the check box and
            change the clearance
            from C to N, but the next time I download transactions it
            will skip over
            that one and not clear it, even when the proper check
            finally does come in.

            One of the issues is that, according to my best
            understanding of U.S.
            tax law, payments are officially "made" when the check is
            written and
            dropped in the mail. So, if I write a check in November
            but it's not
            cashed until March (which has happened)...it screws
            everything up, and
            (even if the check is still within the window to manually
            match) "Update
            + Clear" brings the payment out of the proper accounting
            period. So,
            does anyone have a recommendation for dealing with this
            kind of kerfuffle?

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