Thanks, all! Will tackle this over the weekend, once my "plumbing crises"
are resolved!

Steve


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On Thu, Oct 1, 2026 at 4:11 PM Tom Route36 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kalpesh,
>
> This is a great way to get around dealing with Quicken's subscription
> requirement; and I think your way is definitely less hassle for Steve.
> It's also possibly a good way of trying to clean up any issues with the
> Quicken data itself.  I do have one suggestion though that might make the
> data cleanup process better -- or at least more likely to be successful.
>
> You suggest exporting the .qfx file from Quicken Mac 2007; and importing
> the .qfx file to Quicken Windows 2013.  That would probably work.  But in
> regard to trying to safely clean up the Quicken data, my suggestion would
> be slightly different.  I'd take the exported .qfx file from Quicken Mac
> 2007 and import it into Quicken Windows *2007* first.  That way you're
> moving the data between Mac and PC on the same year of Quicken software
> (2007), which I think might be safer.
>
> Then once the data has been moved into Quicken Windows 2007, you upgrade
> the software on the PC to Quicken Windows 2013.  That might be a safer way
> to clean up the Quicken data.  It's still kinda iffy; and doing multiple
> Validate and Repair operations to check for data issues on both year
> versions (2007 and 2013) would be highly recommended.
>
> Anyway, that would be my one tweak to your advice for Steve.
> Tom
>
>
> On 10/01/2026 04:02 AM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
>
> These steps can be reduced where their cloud version is **not** needed at
> all.
>
>
>
> Reading https://www.quicken.com/support/converting-your-data-quicken-mac-0
> steps to do Mac upgrade but probably isn’t necessary. Since Mac version
> doesn’t provide QIF export, The cleanest route (outside of cleaning up the
> data) is to export out data into QFX format from the existing Mac version
> and then install Windows version of Quicken 2013 (might not need Virtual
> Box). There is a link at the bottom of
> https://www.quicken.com/support/how-and-when-use-intermediate-version-convert-older-versions-quicken/?srsltid=AU7gw4UlwroMzIM8S5PREhIkCezAcT3BYQrpq0Ev9KerNVR0jIMjetyY
> for Quicken 2013 Deluxe download for free which is stated to be able to
> import QFX format and export away directly from there into QIF. This kind
> of implies that changes to their internal database was last done during
> version 2013, which make sense as I recall something to that effect.
>
>
>
> Before exporting the data, I suggest that in Quicken use Validate and
> Repair from File Operations and then from File Operation perform Copy. Do
> this about three times to try to rinse out bad records in Quickens internal
> database (not guaranteed). Then export to QFX, Import into Quicken 2013 on
> Windows. Run this rinse operation three times there as well before
> exporting to QIF format.
>
>
>
> This is likely to be the least resistant way of getting to GNC from that
> old data.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Route36 <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2026 2:35 AM
> *To:* David T. <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]; Kalpesh Patel <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]>; 'Stephen Lee Phillips' <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Download assistance sought...
>
>
>
> David,
>
> The reason for having to go thru this rather long complicated process is
> because Quicken desktop software on the Mac -- all versions, from the
> oldest to the current subscription version -- fails to include any option
> to export a .qif file.  I don't have a Mac system myself where I could
> check that; but all the user forums and AI info that I looked at seem to
> confirm that.  You have to do the .qif export with Quicken Windows
> software.  Ugly, but that's Quicken.
>
> As far as troubles with opening an ancient Quicken 2007 .qdfm file, you're
> absolutely correct.  Quite a few users have reported issues trying to do
> that.  Unfortunately, if there is a problem opening the file with the
> latest Quicken Classic desktop software, the database itself may have
> issues inherent in the data structures.  And even if you can successfully
> open the .qdfm file with the original Quicken 2007 software, it's quite
> likely that exporting it to a .qxf file, and then attempting to open it
> with Quicken Windows (any version) is likely to have problems as well.
> There's no real good way of getting around that.  If it's any consolation,
> the encouraging bright spot is that the export of the data is likely to
> export basic checking, savings, and credit card accounts and categories in
> those accounts intact and correct (at least based on the reports that I've
> seen).  Where problems are more likely are with stock and mutual fund type
> accounts, especially when they involve tracking stock splits and capital
> gains.  I suspect that no matter how the conversion goes for Steve there's
> going to be a lot of manual tweaking involved in Gnucash.  It's the reality
> of dealing with nearly 20 year-old software.
>
> Tom
>
> On 09/30/2026 11:54 PM, David T. wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> I hope you're right, but I'll note that I've seen some troubling pages
> from the Quicken websites that suggest that the current versions of Quicken
> won't directly open a Quicken file from 2007. That would complicate things
> drastically.
>
> Also, I'm not certain, but wouldn't Quicken for the Mac also have a QIF
> export?
>
> David T.
>
>
>
> On October 1, 2026 7:54:44 AM GMT+05:30, Tom Route36
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I think Kalpesh's advice is on the right track here.  But I think there's
> a simpler way of getting to where you want to go.  (Well, maybe not
> simpler. There's a bunch of steps involved.)  My suggestion would be to let
> Quicken provide you with the means of converting that data.  First (and
> don't get scared off just yet) it *will* involve you purchasing a Quicken
> subscription.  *But* you should be able to ultimately accomplish all this
> on the cheap -- i.e., for FREE!  Bear with me here while I explain.
>
> If you go to the Quicken website (not a third-party, that's important) and
> purchase a subscription from Quicken for "Quicken Classic (Windows and
> Mac)" (that specific product name is also important), you'll get the
> current Quicken desktop software.  Once you get that program loaded on your
> Mac computer, as soon as you go to start it for the first time (after
> logging in with your new Quicken ID), the program should ask if you have an
> existing file you want to open.  That's where you specify your Quicken 2007
> .qdfm file.  I would avoid any requests or options to cloud sync your data.
>
> Once you've opened the .qdfm file on your Mac computer with the latest
> Quicken Classic desktop software, don't try to change anything.  Just
> immediately go and export the data (all accounts and categories) to a .qxf
> file.  Be sure to save that .qxf file somewhere where you can access it
> from a Windows PC.
>
> Next, go to your Windows PC (or borrow one if needed), and go back again
> to the Quicken website, this time on the Windows PC.  Login to your Quicken
> account (using the same Quicken ID you just created earlier on the Mac).
> And download and install the same Quicken Classic software that you
> previously installed on the Mac.  Your subscription should allow multiple
> installations of the software.  Once the Quicken software is installed on
> the Windows PC, select the option to create a new empty Quicken file.  Once
> you've got the new empty Quicken file open, then go and import the .qxf
> file that you previously created on the Mac.
>
> Now that you've imported the .qxf file to create a Quicken database on the
> Windows PC, you can finally export the data from there (on the Windows PC)
> into a .qif file.  And be sure to save it someplace safe.  That's the file
> that you need to get the data into Gnucash.
>
> So you're finally done.  Uh, not quite.  Remember what I said about doing
> this for free.  Well, this is where you go back and contact Quicken
> customer support.  You tell them you tried their software and didn't like
> it.  And so, you'd like to take advantage of their "30-day Money Back
> Satisfaction Guarantee".  You should be able to get a full refund of all
> your money.
>
> Anyway, I think this is probably the most straightforward way of getting
> the .qdfm file converted for Gnucash.
> Hope this helps,
> Tom
>
>
> On 09/30/2026 04:04 AM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
>
> In that case MacOS is the only way in Virtual Box instead of Windows OS it
> sounds like. Two possible routes instead of one – 1) Older MacOS running an
> older Quicken version in Virtual Box and then export it out as QIF, or 2)
> let newer version of Quicken on MacOS upgrade that version into modern
> format, and then either export to QIF directly from there or bring it over
> to Windows and export. Note that Windows has been using QDF proprietary
> format to store Quicken data.
>
>
>
> I found number of Vagrant boxes for older MacOS that can run in Virtual
> Box at https://portal.cloud.hashicorp.com/vagrant/discover?query=macos.
>
>
>
> In either case, though, you will end up with export-import cycle which is
> the best route.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Route36 <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2026 12:08 AM
> *To:* 'Stephen Lee Phillips' <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]; Kalpesh Patel <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]>; 'David T.' <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Download assistance sought...
>
>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> After I saw Kalpesh's advice, it got me curious about those old versions
> of Quicken, and I decided to run a few tests.  If you did get a Windows
> instance up and running, you wouldn't need to worry about which version of
> Windows it was.  For my testing here on a current Windows 11 system, I was
> able to successfully install and run both Quicken 2014 and Quicken 2007.
>
> The bad news though is Quicken Windows can't open a Quicken Mac (.qdfm)
> file.  So I don't think doing that will help in your case.  As David
> mentioned already, you need Quicken (specifically a Mac version of it) to
> open that .qdfm file so that you can export it in one of those generic
> formats.
>
> A piece of good news for you though is that newer versions of Quicken
> (post-2007) can most likely open your .qdfm file.  I tested and confirmed
> that Quicken 2014 can open a Quicken 2007 file.  At least it worked for me
> on Windows.  So even if you don't have a Mac system with Quicken 2007
> anymore, I think if you can find someone with a Mac system that has *any*
> version of Quicken, there's a good chance it will be able to read your old
> .qdfm file -- which would then allow you to export it as a .QIF file.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Tom
>
>
> On 09/29/2026 07:25 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
>
> Your only and, one and only one real option is run a Windows instance in a 
> VirtualBox (Vagarant can provide a lot of plumbing if you know how) where you 
> can install Quicken 2006 and export it out as a QIF  format (OFX and CSV 
> formats for export are not available in Quicken) to import into GNC. Even 
> that is not strait forward as semantics of two system differ in many ways. I 
> would venture to think that you would probably need either Windows XP or 
> Windows 7 as a compatible OS to possibly run that old of a Quicken version. 
> You should be able to get a copy of it from the archive machine 
> (https://archive.org/search?query=quicken&tab=all).
>
>
>
> I remember writing up good hints to minimize pain to this group many years 
> ago from my experience of migrating over two decades of data from Quicken 
> 2017 into GNC inn 2020 (and I am still fixing up some of that data).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: David T. <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2026 2:32 AM
>
> To: [email protected]; Stephen Lee Phillips <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>
>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Download assistance sought...
>
>
>
> I'm pretty sure you won't find any success getting at that data from outside 
> the Quicken universe. Your only option, I believe, is to open the data file 
> in Quicken and export your data in a generic format like OFX, QIF, or csv and 
> then importing that into another accounting program.
>
>
>
> David T.
>
>
>
> On September 29, 2026 7:16:35 AM GMT+05:30, Stephen Lee Phillips 
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Trying to find conversion for .qdfm (Quicken Data for Mac) file from
>
> 2007 and was directed to GnuCash, however I've been unsuccessful in
>
> finding, downloading, and extracting/opening the correct iteration to
>
> run on Intel Mac OS Sonoma 14.8.9: Any suggestions would be most
>
> gratefully appreciated...
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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