On 2/20/12 2:24 PM, Steve wrote: > Mozilla is founded by Google. Mozilla receives funds from Google and others. The "and others" bit is important.
> Without Google they would be gone. Without Google Mozilla would have to find other partners. I'm willing to bet cash money on the barrelhead they already have other partners lined up in the event this becomes necessary. > That is not possible when you use mail encryption. I doubt that whether you use email encryption is really any concern to Google. Invasive, intrusive email scanning exposes them to all manner of legal risks, from both civil and criminal law. It's also a public relations disaster waiting to happen, and could result all manner of horrific penalties for Google. Traffic analysis gives them almost as much useful information with much less risk exposure -- and email encryption doesn't interfere with traffic analysis. I'm not a particular fan of Google (or Facebook or what-have-you), but let's make sure our criticisms of them match up to reality. > The question is still valid and imo, some pressure from the user > community might help to bring Thunderbird to the point where it can > be downloaded containing enigmail. You're certainly welcome to. If you'd like to see Enigmail bundled with Thunderbird, then please write the Thunderbird developers a politely-worded email asking them to look into it. However, talking on this list (or on the Enigmail user list) about how much you'd like to see it in Thunderbird is unlikely to achieve anything: the people who make those decisions are not, as far as I know, on either this list or Enigmail's list. > The arguments by Robert seem to be rather minor compared to the huge > benefit delivery of save communication would bring. There is virtually nothing OpenPGP can do that S/MIME cannot do. There are certainly some implementation differences between the two, but in terms of broad capabilities they're almost identical. If you want email encryption capabilities, they're already there. If you want OpenPGP specifically, you'll need to find things OpenPGP can do that S/MIME can't do, and pitch it to the Thunderbird developers on that score. > Imagine a world in which Windows and OS X are delivered with > OpenPGP. Windows and OS X are delivered with S/MIME already. If people aren't using S/MIME (and they overwhelmingly are not!), why should we believe the presence of an OpenPGP suite would change their behavior? > Call me idealistic, but I think it's up to the community to make that > happen. I'm not trying to dissuade you, but the people you need to convince are not on this mailing list. :) _______________________________________________ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users