On 26/01/17 00:16, Andrew Gallagher wrote:
> 
> gnupg.org *does* keep 3DES at the end of the supported suites, so surely
> it should not be affected. I'm tempted to write this off as a
> mistake by ssllabs.

I've spoken to ssllabs and it appears that this was an ambiguity in the
wording of their blog post. That means the downgrade to C next month is
legit - not because 3DES is present, but because 3DES is present *and*
GCM is absent.

What both this and Glenn's Apple issue have in common is the lack of
ECDHE+GCM suites in the cipher list. I generally use the following
config in Apache:

SSLCipherSuite \
  "EECDH+ECDSA+AESGCM EECDH+aRSA+AESGCM EECDH+ECDSA+SHA384 \
  EECDH+ECDSA+SHA256 EECDH+aRSA+SHA384 EECDH+aRSA+SHA256 \
  EECDH EDH+AESGCM EDH+aRSA +3DES 3DES \
  !aNULL !eNULL !LOW !EXP !MD5 !KRB5 !PSK !SRP !DSS !SEED !RC4"

This uses all HIGH suites in a sensible order but still falls back to
3DES for XP compatibility. When retiring 3DES this simplifies to:

SSLCipherSuite \
  "EECDH+ECDSA+AESGCM EECDH+aRSA+AESGCM EECDH+ECDSA+SHA384 \
  EECDH+ECDSA+SHA256 EECDH+aRSA+SHA384 EECDH+aRSA+SHA256 \
  EECDH EDH+AESGCM EDH+aRSA !MEDIUM !LOW !aNULL !eNULL !PSK"

Andrew.

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