On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 20:00:25 -0500, Jay Acuna <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 12:32 AM Robert J. Hansen via Gnupg-users
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I am remotely/anonymously urging a GnuPG newbie to install gpg4win 5 beta[1] with post-quantum encryption; everyone should use PQC *yesterday*.[2]
This is an extreme position. It is also silly. No, everyone does not

I would say it is extremely well advised as soon as possible to move to hybrid the PQC algorithms. For protection against "save now decrypt later" attacks.

^^^ This. Future retrospective decryption of today’s intercepts. Most people do not understand the threat model for this.

On a not unrelated note, see also, among other things, the nuanced discussion of “The benefits-do-not-exist argument” in:

2025-01-18: “As expensive as a plane flight: Looking at some claims that quantum computers won’t work.”
https://blog.cr.yp.to/20250118-flight.html

I do agree with Robert J. Hansen that it’s best not to (as I will put it) casually sketch a kind of handwavy *ad hoc* cryptographic protocol in a tangent that’s dragging this thread entirely off-topic, reducing S/N ratio. (I will skip that part of the discussion.)

And why bother? Real Cryptographers™ have already done the hard work for securely hybridizing the needed algorithms, and developers such as WK and the GnuPG devs have already implemented it *a year ago* (v.2.5.1 stable/forward-compatible protocol for ECC+Kyber).

Please just use their stuff. :-)

Always,

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