On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 13:23 CET, Richard Frith-Macdonald 
<richardfrithmacdon...@gmail.com> wrote: 
 
> 
> On 7 Jan 2014, at 12:16, Niels Grewe <niels.gr...@halbordnung.de> wrote:
> 
> > (Sorry, forgot to CC the list)
> > > Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
> > >> Von: Niels Grewe <niels.gr...@halbordnung.de>
> >> Betreff: Re: Intermediate Summary: Re: GNUstep.org website redesign 
> >> proposal
> >> Datum: 7. Januar 2014 13:00:12 MEZ
> >> An: David Chisnall <thera...@sucs.org>
> >> >> >> Am 07.01.2014 um 12:06 schrieb David Chisnall <thera...@sucs.org>:
> >> >>> On 7 Jan 2014, at 10:49, Richard Frith-Macdonald 
> >> >>> <richardfrithmacdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>>> I read 'Objective-C 2' as 'we support the features Apple introduced 
> >>> >>>>> in 2005!  Yay!'
> >>>> >>>> You may be unusual in that.
> >>> >>> Possibly, but the 2006 WWDC was the first and last time Apple 
> >>> >>> referred to a set of new Objective-C features as Objective-C 2.  The 
> >>> >>> term Objective-C 2 does not appear in current Apple docs,
> >> >> <nitpicking>
> >> That’s not quite true: Some of the documents still talk about something 
> >> called "Objective-C 2.0“, most notably the runtime programming guide:
> >> >> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ObjCRuntimeGuide/Articles/ocrtVersionsPlatforms.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40008048-CH106-SW1
> >> </nitpicking>
> >> >> But that doesn’t make the term any more intelligible. I think we should 
> >> >> prefer to use a concise description of the feature set over any 
> >> >> marketing mumbo jumbo. 
> I sympathise/agree with that ... but we have, on the website , a consice 
> description of what gnustep is, and yet just had Doc O'Leary complaning 
> because we didn't have a marketing mission statement.
> 
> Probably we need both ... a good description and a marketing phrase to refer 
> to it.

How about just calling it as simple as: "GNUstep Runtime"
That GNUstep runs on Objective-C, should be clear from the general description 
about what GNUstep is anyways.

Then a page dedicated to the runtime, could go into the gory details of all the 
nice features it provides.

cheers,
Sebastian

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