Riccardo, They may be crap to you, but they are in common usage and this deserve our support. The attitude you display towards them is at once non-productive and not conducive to attracting developers. They are your opinions, not facts.
You forget when you say things such as the forgoing that the entire point of a programming languages is to build programs as effectively and efficiently as possible. Calling developers lazy because the want to use ARC or other features of objc 2.0 is like calling C programmers lazy because they don't want to use assembler. O_o To the point Ivan was discussing objc 2.0 is the most recognized name which we can use, but it's important to remember to say "the objective c 2.0 language" since "objective-c" itself is trademarked. :/ Thanks, GC On Saturday, January 11, 2014, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi, > > Ivan Vučica wrote: > >> I definitely wouldn't go with anything like Objective-C+ARC since I, for >> one, don't think ARC is nearly as an important addition to the language as >> @synthesize. And five years from now, any arguments against naming it >> relative to Objective-C 2.0 will stand against naming it Objective-C+ARC >> or >> similar. >> > well, I think it is poinlessin arguing in what is more important and what > not. > To me, they are all crap. The new language additions are dirty, have a > terrible syntax and are appeal to lazy programmers. > ARC instead is more a "taste". It is a new addition in the GC discussion. > I personally prefer ref-counting. > > The point for me is making a clear statement about which runtime you can > use and which features you get, so that somebody porting Apple code knows > how much is supported, which features he can use with which compiler mix, > to estimate, for example, the porting effort. > > This can't be written in stone. You don't know what Apple will invent to > appeal its lazy iOS developers in the future, if and what Objective-C 2.1 > or 3.0 will be. Workstations aren't relevant anyway today... > > > Riccardo > > _______________________________________________ > Gnustep-dev mailing list > Gnustep-dev@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnustep-dev > -- Gregory Casamento Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) http://www.gnustep.org http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
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