I confess I didn’t see them.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 16:59 Ivan Vučica <i...@vucica.net> wrote:
> Did you try to analyze what my projects which I shared with you are doing
> to produce an APK?
>
> On Fri 15 Feb 2019 at 21:57, Gregory Casamento <greg.casame...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Any possibility that you might be willing to share the cmake files and
>> config options you used? One direction I would like to take the project
>> in is to Be able to compile on android and potentially have a uikit
>> implementation on top of android.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 15:24 Jordan Schidlowsky <jor...@noodlecake.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, ya I'm just seeing that script now, we didn't use that. Just
>>> looked at configuration options for tools-make and gnustep-base... Then
>>> fixed everything that didn't configure properly for cross-compilation and
>>> re-wrote a CMakelists.txt for base and have been using that since...
>>> Having the whole build (from runtime to base) in cmake makes it much easie
>>> to write, run, and debug everything inside android studio (even though the
>>> IDE editor doesn't support obj-c syntax).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Gregory Casamento <greg.casame...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The one we were discussing in this thread. How are you configuring your
>>> app on android?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 14:55 Jordan Schidlowsky <jor...@noodlecake.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, i'm not sure which script you're referring to!
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 15, 2019, at 1:44 PM, Gregory Casamento <
>>>> greg.casame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Are you talking about how the script configures things?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:08 Jordan Schidlowsky <jor...@noodlecake.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We will be shipping a large game in a couple weeks on android that is
>>>>> built on gnustep. We've been testing very extensively over the past 3-4
>>>>> months and things look quite stable (at least on armv7-a). The game
>>>>> heavily uses ARC, blocks, libdispatch.... Lemme just say the
>>>>> configuration
>>>>> of gnustep-base, build, and project setup, were........ not ideal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Gregory Casamento <
>>>>> greg.casame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The challenge at this point is to get a working app.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 14:47 Gregory Casamento <
>>>>> greg.casame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ivan pointed out that I was using the wrong ninja script. This
>>>>>> solved my problem. I am now working on getting base to build properly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:21 PM Ivan Vučica <i...@vucica.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FTR thank you for that, and for spotting -androideabi16!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 5:20 PM Jordan Schidlowsky <
>>>>>>> jor...@noodlecake.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agreed, just sharing whats working for us via gradle config.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Ivan Vučica <i...@vucica.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aye; but we should not depend on using Gradle as the end state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 5:09 PM Jordan Schidlowsky <
>>>>>>>> jor...@noodlecake.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ya you're right, It should be picked up. For what it's worth,
>>>>>>>>> here's our gradle config, (which ends up passing the correct flags to
>>>>>>>>> cmake
>>>>>>>>> for building gnustep):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> defaultConfig {
>>>>>>>>> applicationId "com.noodlecake.ssg4"
>>>>>>>>> minSdkVersion 21
>>>>>>>>> targetSdkVersion 28
>>>>>>>>> versionCode 28
>>>>>>>>> versionName "1.0.0"
>>>>>>>>> testInstrumentationRunner
>>>>>>>>> "android.support.test.runner.AndroidJUnitRunner"
>>>>>>>>> externalNativeBuild {
>>>>>>>>> cmake {
>>>>>>>>> cppFlags "-std=c++14 -frtti -fexceptions
>>>>>>>>> -fconstant-string-class=NSConstantString"
>>>>>>>>> cFlags "-DANDROID
>>>>>>>>> -fconstant-string-class=NSConstantString"
>>>>>>>>> arguments "-DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON",
>>>>>>>>> "-DANDROID_STL=c++_static",
>>>>>>>>> "-DANDROID_DISABLE_FORMAT_STRING_CHECKS=TRUE"
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>> ndk {
>>>>>>>>> // Specifies the ABI configurations of your native
>>>>>>>>> // libraries Gradle should build and package with your APK.
>>>>>>>>> //abiFilters 'x86', 'x86_64', 'armeabi', 'armeabi-v7a',
>>>>>>>>> // 'arm64-v8a'
>>>>>>>>> abiFilters 'armeabi-v7a'
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Ivan Vučica <i...@vucica.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reading through the toolchain file
>>>>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/faab2ea5ccbf2b25df57825eb4e8d933befc94aa?url=https%3A%2F%2Fandroid.googlesource.com%2Fplatform%2Fndk%2F%2B%2Fmaster%2Fbuild%2Fcmake%2Fandroid.toolchain.cmake&userId=2790543&signature=ae1079c361f3f494>,
>>>>>>>>> ANDROID_PLATFORM will be calculated from ANDROID_NATIVE_API_LEVEL. So
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> should not be the issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd start by pepper-spraying message() calls in toolchain .cmake
>>>>>>>>> file, and in other .cmake files as necessary, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 5:01 PM Jordan Schidlowsky <
>>>>>>>>> jor...@noodlecake.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ah, i didn't see that shell script... I think
>>>>>>>>>> -DANDROID_PLATFORM=android-21 (or 23) is what you want there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Ivan Vučica <i...@vucica.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually -- it doesn't explain why this is happening, as the
>>>>>>>>>> shell script (which I failed to notice Gregory attached) matches
>>>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>>>> sent him. It's using -DANDROID_NATIVE_API_LEVEL=23 which should make
>>>>>>>>>> it use
>>>>>>>>>> ...-androideabi23.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Strange.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 4:47 PM Ivan Vučica <i...@vucica.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, that doesn't match what I sent out and makes me feel better
>>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 4:41 PM Jordan Schidlowsky <
>>>>>>>>>>> jor...@noodlecake.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this line in his output indicates he's building for API
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --target=armv7-none-linux-androideabi16
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Ivan Vučica <i...@vucica.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Greg mentioned me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions/commands I came up with and that I sent over to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregory should attempt using API level 23. Totally arbitrarily
>>>>>>>>>>>> picked. Use
>>>>>>>>>>>> of pre-21 API is not happening so not an issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Needless to say, building works for me. I don’t have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> self-contained script to share, but it’s super simplistic and what
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>>> described (incl using GUI to install NDK) is what I did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m only sure it builds, not that it works, as I am yet to try
>>>>>>>>>>>> running the code; I don’t have a build script ready for producing
>>>>>>>>>>>> an APK
>>>>>>>>>>>> (the old approach from 2013 and 2014 is a mess and needs to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> reworked).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed 13 Feb 2019 at 15:34 Jordan Schidlowsky <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jor...@noodlecake.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got some patches but they are pretty ugly and I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clean them up properly before submitting...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Jordan Schidlowsky <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jor...@noodlecake.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> An NDK app can chose to bundle in a (c++_shared) library in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your app, or you can link with a static (c++_static) standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> library.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is actually dependant on what setting you chose for this in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradle build file, as gradle will pass that along to cmake which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will link
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That cxx runtime test doesn't quite work correctly using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> android toolchain. But if you want to configure your ndk app
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> c++_static you can remove that test section from CMakeLists.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and add in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually below:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> set(CXXRT_IS_STDLIB true)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> target_link_libraries(objc c++_static stdc++)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also note, that I am still thinking about a way to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that test suite while cross compiling...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 6:41 AM, Gregory Casamento <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> greg.casame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A little more context... my build environment is a MacPro
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010 running the latest version of Mojave. I have downloaded and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest of Android studio and installed the latest SDK and NDK
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu under tools and the SDK manager. The version of the NDK I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using is 19.0.5232133.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am utterly stumped as to why this is not working. Also, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though Ivan's installation of this is working which seems to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicate that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a configuration issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any input would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 7:09 AM Gregory Casamento <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> greg.casame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ### Build libobjc2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- The ASM compiler identification is Clang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Found assembler:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/heron/Library/Android/sdk/ndk-bundle/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/darwin-x86_64/bin/clang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Check for working C compiler:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/heron/Library/Android/sdk/ndk-bundle/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/darwin-x86_64/bin/clang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Check for working C compiler:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/heron/Library/Android/sdk/ndk-bundle/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/darwin-x86_64/bin/clang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Detecting C compiler ABI info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Detecting C compile features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Detecting C compile features - done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Check for working CXX compiler:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/heron/Library/Android/sdk/ndk-bundle/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/darwin-x86_64/bin/clang++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Check for working CXX compiler:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/heron/Library/Android/sdk/ndk-bundle/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/darwin-x86_64/bin/clang++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Detecting CXX compile features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Detecting CXX compile features - done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Testing C++ interop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Testing C++ standard library
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- No useable C++ runtime found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Looking for pthread.h
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Looking for pthread.h - found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Looking for pthread_create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Looking for pthread_create - found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Found Threads: TRUE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- GNUstep install type set to NONE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Performing Test CXA_ALLOCATE_EXCEPTION_NOEXCEPT_COMPILES
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Performing Test CXA_ALLOCATE_EXCEPTION_NOEXCEPT_COMPILES -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Success
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Configuring done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Generating done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Build files have been written to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/heron/Development/Algoriddim/gnustep-toolchain/gnustep-android/gnustep/libobjc2/build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/heron/Development/Algoriddim/gnustep-toolchain/gnustep-android/gnustep/libobjc2/build/CMake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1/1] Linking CXX executable test_cxx_runtime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FAILED: test_cxx_runtime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : &&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/heron/Library/Android/sdk/ndk-bundle/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/darwin-x86_64/bin/clang++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --target=armv7-none-linux-androideabi16
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --gcc-toolchain=/Users/heron/Library/Android/sdk/ndk-bundle/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/darwin-x86_64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --sysroot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/heron/Library/Android/sdk/ndk-bundle/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/darwin-x86_64/sysroot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -g -DANDROID -fdata-sections -ffunction-sections -funwind-tables
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -fstack-protector-strong -no-canonical-prefixes -mfpu=vfpv3-d16
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -fno-addrsig -mthumb -Wa,--noexecstack -Wformat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Werror=format-security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -stdlib=libc++ -Wl,--exclude-libs,libgcc.a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Wl,--exclude-libs,libatomic.a -static-libstdc++ -Wl,--build-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Wl,--warn-shared-textrel -Wl,--exclude-libs,libunwind.a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Wl,--no-undefined -Qunused-arguments -Wl,-z,noexecstack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Wl,-z,relro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Wl,-z,now -Wl,--gc-sections
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMakeFiles/test_cxx_runtime.dir/typeinfo_test.cc.o -o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test_cxx_runtime -latomic -lm && :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMakeFiles/test_cxx_runtime.dir/typeinfo_test.cc.o:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typeinfo_test.cc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/60886d21dd395f248f150bf2063af90bce602b5b?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftypeinfo_test.cc%2F&userId=2790543&signature=a72ed8c78f119f8b>:vtable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for type_info2: error: undefined reference to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'std::type_info::__do_upcast(__cxxabiv1::__class_type_info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> const*, void**)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> const'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clang++: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -v to see invocation)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ### LIBOBJC2 BUILD FAILED!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am running into the above error when trying to build for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android. I have the latest ndk and sdk installed with Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> studio.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any idea offhand why C++ isn't finding it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runtime? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will attach the build script I am using to generate the ninja
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregory Casamento
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/5539c79bf8ea11ab855df69cf27c47504df4029a?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnustep.org&userId=2790543&signature=a3bacb38978af1d3>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/0e7d2849e32e6a5545dee4db716d416d8a769d54?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheronsperch.blogspot.com&userId=2790543&signature=794ec8837a56aa7c>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/2957e53708e301d78eebf58dc506d80bbe462935?url=http%3A%2F%2Find.ie%2Fphoenix%2F&userId=2790543&signature=4c11c7cb082d4c41>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregory Casamento
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/395c4e14c1327f2eb68a925849b3ef4405ef1c3c?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnustep.org&userId=2790543&signature=97bd0bcba9a39e96>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/df75d951421ec7ec49a7f3777a60a26416e028ad?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheronsperch.blogspot.com&userId=2790543&signature=9831445b2546de15>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/aae8e7cc987e35195aa951657c98b8697f0f1d6e?url=http%3A%2F%2Find.ie%2Fphoenix%2F&userId=2790543&signature=124dae0a65061977>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss-gnustep mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss-gnus...@gnu.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/f80f650ce2e69eb21b34eff589f9ace84a85b5ba?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.gnu.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdiscuss-gnustep&userId=2790543&signature=fd9e027ef774428f>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gnustep-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gnustep-dev@gnu.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnustep-dev
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gregory Casamento
>>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
>>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org
>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/f96c84969d3eb1649c6152bfd4e969a2d0bc04ca?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnustep.org&userId=2790543&signature=cf673d8f7c9de2ee>
>>>>>> - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/6dcc6d47fb32cb89a517b10436520e8740ac82ac?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheronsperch.blogspot.com&userId=2790543&signature=6596886ce09bf75f>
>>>>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/
>>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/29eac4e9399908a6ec029d8842d4a0c867a6b255?url=http%3A%2F%2Find.ie%2Fphoenix%2F&userId=2790543&signature=b50eb38ce5efa054>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gregory Casamento
>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>>>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Gregory Casamento
>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
>>>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Gregory Casamento
>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
>>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>> Gregory Casamento
>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/
>>
> --
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>
--
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