As someone living in Europe which is probably going to be not-so-affluent, in reason of the crisis, I agree with Arun.
It is highly probable that in a near future, when money is not generously provided by governments for research libraries, that a lot of researchers in Europe and worldwide will be happy to get an OA article, even if it is only a draft, and even after an embargo period. Green OA can be easily and rapidly provided for and by researchers living in rich, poor and future-poor countries, and it helps the progress of science. Spending time to contest a 10 years definition seems me a quarrel of spoilt children in a schoolyard.  Hélène Bosc Open Access to Scientific Communication http://open-access.infodocs.eu/tiki-index.php ----- Original Message ----- From: Subbiah Arunachalam To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:26 PM Subject: [GOAL] Re: Meaning of Open Access As someone living and working in a not-so-affluent country, I know the value of gratis access to the journal literature of science and scholarship. Let us not keep quibbling over definitions. What should guide us now is the speed with which we can bring as much of the literature as possible into the domain of gratis access. And by that yardstick Green OA seems to be the best option. Believe me as we approach 100% Green OA, the rest of all you want will follow. Arun  ________________________________________________________________________________ From: Richard Poynder <ri...@richardpoynder.co.uk> To: goal@eprints.org Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012, 23:59 Subject: [GOAL] Re: Meaning of Open Access So what is really at issue is whether Green Gratis OA is indeed not "meaningful" enough to warrant "lowering the bar" in order to mandate it. According to Jan, it is not. According to me, it most definitely is: in fact, it is the first and foremost reason for providing OA at all. What do other GOAL and JISC readers think? >> There are times when the best that can be achieved is that people agree to disagree. I think this is one of those times. Richard Poynder _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal ________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal [ Part 2: "Attached Text" ] _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal