Mr Beall, as usual, picks his words as hostile as possible to address this OA community. Calling Jean-Claude Guedon a book banner is like calling Nelson Mandela a criminal. It is just not true and it tries to ride the waves of a very disturbing discussion. I am asking him to show some respect or to leave this email list. And he can call me a list banner if he wants.
On 13 November 2015 at 09:37, Stevan Harnad <amscifo...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Remove Access" would of course be absurd, and completely contrary to the > spirit of OA (but that's not what J-CG meant). > > "Cease to Pay for Access," on the other hand, is a call for a perfectly > valid and longstanding judgment-call by library serial acquisitions > committees, in consultation with their user community, as to how they spend > their serials budget. > > The valuable historical service Jeffery Beall is providing by warning > about scam Gold OA journals (though it would be even more useful if > extended to all journals, whether OA or toll-access) is compromised by his > inexplicable hostility to OA itself and his equally inexplicable fealty to > subscription publishers and their M.O. > > But calling an Open Access advocate the equivalent of a book-banner takes > the (vegan) cake... > > SH > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Beall, Jeffrey < > jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu> wrote: > >> I think that Guedon's advice to "Remove access to *Lingua* going >> forward" is the moral equivalent of a book banning. >> >> >> >> There's no moral difference between saying "Remove access to *Lingua*" >> and saying "Remove the book *Heather Has Two Mommies*." >> >> >> >> I understand that all book banners (and journal banners) think they are >> doing the right thing and helping society. >> >> >> >> I think it is shameful for anyone, especially a librarian, to call for >> the removal of content from a library. >> >> >> >> Guedon is the modern-day equivalent of a book banner. He is pressuring >> libraries to ban serials, the same, morally, as banning books. >> >> >> >> Jeffrey Beall >> >> University of Colorado Denver >> >> >> >> *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Richard Poynder >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:59 PM >> *To:* 'Global Open Access List' <goal@eprints.org> >> *Subject:* [GOAL] Inside Higher Ed: All six editors and all 31 editorial >> board members of Lingua resign over Elsevier >> >> >> >> *I am posting this message on behalf of Jean-Claude Guédon:* >> >> >> >> >> >> The article below (thanks to Colin Steele) is an example of a courageous >> move that must be supported by the libraries. >> >> With regard to the *Lingua* (now *Glossa*) editorial board, libraries >> could, for example, >> >> 1. Remove access to* Lingua* going forward (keep access to archive up to >> December 31st, 2015) if caught in a Big Deal; remove *Lingua* from >> subscriptions, starting in 2016, if not in a Big Deal >> >> 2. Support *Glossa* (the new journal) financially, >> >> 3. Promote *Glossa* widely. ERIH is already classifying the new journal >> at the level of its current status by arguing that the quality of a journal >> is linked to the editors and editorial board, and not to the publisher. >> >> Researchers in linguistics, of course, should boycott Elsevier's *Lingua* >> from now on. >> >> This event also demonstrates the importance for Learned and scientific >> societies not to sell the title of their journals to publishers. So long as >> we foolishly evaluate research according to the place where it is published >> (i.e. a journal title), publishers will hold a strong trump card. >> >> Finally, this event displays the incredible behaviour of the >> multinational, commercial, publishers with particular clarity. These are >> not the friends of the scientific communication system we need. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Extract from *Inside Higher Ed* article: >> >> >> >> “All six editors and all 31 editorial board members of *Lingua*, one of >> the top journals in linguistics, last week resigned to protest Elsevier's >> policies on pricing and its refusal to convert the journal to an >> open-access publication that would be free online. As soon as January, when >> the departing editors' noncompete contracts expire, they plan to start a >> new open-access journal to be called *Glossa*.” >> >> >> >> The article can be read in full here: >> >> >> >> >> https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/11/02/editors-and-editorial-board-quit-top-linguistics-journal-protest-subscription-fees >> >> >> >> For a list of some of the other coverage of this issue see here: >> http://kaivonfintel.org/2015/11/05/lingua-roundup/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> GOAL@eprints.org >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > -- Jacinto Dávila http://webdelprofesor.ula.ve/ingenieria/jacinto
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