Good evening, 1. Considering how low the rate of compliance is in the Green OA landscape, it seems very ambitious, to say the least, to hope that any mandate with the additional constraint of licensing properly the deposits will reach a detectable level at all. Let's prove first that we are able to persuade researchers that they should participate in a complete filling of their institutional repositories. Only when they will be convinced about the advantages Green OA brings about for themselves (and they will be) will they climb one step up and licence their work.
2. I wish to remind those who acknowledge that only a strong mandate linked to evaluation procedures can generate compliance but who believe it is too coercive, that in many institutions (mine at least) and for a long time, researchers MUST deposit a reprint of each of their publications in the local library. Coercion level is just equivalent. Best regards, Bernard Rentier, Liège. > > Hi Marc, > > You say: > > "I certainly qualify as an OA advocate, and as such: > > I don’t equate OA with CC BY (or any CC license); in fact, I’m a little bit > tired of discussions about what 'being OA' means." > > I hear you, but I think the key point here is that OA advocates (perhaps not > you, but OA advocates) are successfully convincing a growing number of > research funders (e.g. Wellcome Trust, RCUK, Ford Foundation, Hewlett > Foundation, Gates Foundation etc.) that CC BY is the only acceptable form of > open access. > > So however tired you and Stevan might be of discussing it, I believe there > are important implications and consequences flowing from that. > > Richard Poynder > > > >> On 23 January 2017 at 16:31, Couture Marc <marc.cout...@teluq.ca> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Just to be clear, my position on the basic issue here. >> >> >> >> I certainly qualify as an OA advocate, and as such : >> >> >> >> - I don’t equate OA with CC BY (or any CC license); in fact, I’m a little >> bit tired of discussions about what “being OA” means. >> >> >> >> - I work to help increase the proportion of gratis OA, still much too low. >> >> >> >> - I try to convince my colleagues that CC BY is the best way to disseminate >> scientific/scholarly works and make them useful. >> >> >> >> I favour CC BY over the restricted versions (mainly -NC) because I find the >> arguments about potentially unwanted or devious uses far less compelling >> than those about the advantages of unrestricted uses and the drawbacks of >> restrictions that can be much more stringent than they seem at first glance. >> >> >> >> Like Stevan said, OA advocates are indeed a plurality. The opposite would >> bother me. >> >> >> >> Marc Couture >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> GOAL@eprints.org >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >> > > > > -- > Richard Poynder > www.richardpoynder.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
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