Thank you, this is helpful Peter. Confirmation or refutation by CCC and/or its 
publisher members would move this discussion further.

One point of correction: re "CC NC and CC ND licences are treated as 
effectively controlled by the publisher".

Creative Commons licenses are a means for copyright owners to waive some of 
their rights under copyright. The owner of the copyright is the Licensor. With 
respect to scholarly works that involve author(s) and publisher(s), "who owns 
the copyright" is a much more complex question than one might think. Copyright 
can belong exclusively either to the author or the publisher, but sharing of 
rights through a contract or license is much more common. Even if the publisher 
owns copyright outright, the author still retains moral rights.

The Elsevier approach, while not necessarily a good practice, is a model of 
transparency. The Elsevier Journal Author Rights webpage states: "For open 
access articles...

Authors sign an exclusive license agreement, where authors have copyright but 
license exclusive rights in their article to the publisher**. In this case 
authors have the right to:...Share their article in the same ways permitted to 
third parties under the relevant user license". from:

https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/copyright (as of September 12, 2019).


This is in effect a copyright transfer from author to publisher with copyright 
in the name of the author (what I call nominal copyright) but all rights 
transferred to Elsevier. In traditional subscription-based publishing the trend 
for some time has been to shift from copyright transfer to license to publish. 
License to publish can involve a variety of rights sharing and in some cases 
leaves the author with less rights than a copyright transfer agreement that 
recognizes some author rights.


This means that Elsevier owns the copyright of its OA articles and is the 
Licensor. This is important, because the copyright owner has no obligation to 
continue to make a work available, either at all or under a particular license. 
If an open access publisher has a tough time make ends meet, it is their right 
to shift their business model to hybrid or toll access and/or to sell their 
publishing operation to another organization that has no commitment to open 
access.


As an example of copyright change post-CC licensing , one of my scholarly 
blogs, The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics, was licensed under a CC 
license for a few years, but today it is All Rights Reserved copyright. If 
anyone made use of their rights under CC while the license was available I 
cannot retract those rights. If they did not retain proof of the license and 
their use at that particular point in time, it is not hard to imagine 
differences of opinion arising about who did what when, and possibly 
litigation. Fortunately for my readers, I have little inclination to consider 
litigation, but others might.


In the case of other publishers (besides Elsevier), even if the default license 
is CC and the information on the publisher's website states that copyright 
belongs to the author, in order to know the actual legal status of the article 
it is necessary to know the legal contract between the author and the 
publisher, whether this is explicit (a contract is signed and retained by both 
parties) or implicit (unwritten understanding, a situation that could lead to 
complications in future if the two parties do not actually share the same 
understanding).


Based on my review of publishers' websites, I would describe current practices 
of open access publishers with respect to copyright as unclear at best. This is 
why I appreciate Elsevier's clarity on the topic.


If authors or funders are paying for works to be published under open licenses 
I recommend retaining proof of the agreement for open licensing and placing a 
copy of the work in an open access archive. The reason for the latter is 
because there can never be any guarantee that a given journal or its publisher 
will continue publishing at all, and changes to the open access status of a 
work downstream, whether accidental or deliberate, are possible.


With respect to open access policy, I recommend bottom-up faculty permissions 
policy following the Harvard model, in which faculty members grant to the 
university a non-exclusive right to disseminate their work through the 
repository unless a waiver is specifically requested. One loophole needs 
correction, as the Harvard policy states dissemination "but not for a profit" 
(which leaves the door open for charging for cost-recovery). This should state: 
"free of charge". Funding agencies could follow a similar approach. This 
guarantees that publishers would not have exclusive copyright, as authors would 
not have exclusive rights to grant.


This and other approaches to green self-archiving policy are sufficient to 
create change in publishing. The development and growth of open access 
publishing predates funder policies with preference for open access publishing.


Peter may be correct about publisher misuse of NC and ND; evidence to prove 
this point would be useful.  If this is happening, I agree in principle that 
this is a problem, but differ in my analysis. To me, the problem is not the 
license but the granting of exclusive rights to publishers (with or without 
nominal copyright for the author). There are good reasons for researchers to 
avoid granting blanket downstream rights for commercial use and derivatives, 
such as protecting the rights of human subjects and third party works. Avoiding 
open licensing altogether may be preferable to using more restrictive licenses, 
at least this is my perspective with respect to my own work, having given such 
matters a great deal of thought.


best,



Dr. Heather Morrison

Associate Professor, School of Information Studies, University of Ottawa

Professeur Agrégé, École des Sciences de l'Information, Université d'Ottawa

Principal Investigator, Sustaining the Knowledge Commons, a SSHRC Insight 
Project

sustainingknowledgecommons.org

[email protected]

https://uniweb.uottawa.ca/?lang=en#/members/706

[On research sabbatical July 1, 2019 - June 30, 2020]

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Attention : courriel externe | external email
A few more points about CCC.
* it is totally unregulated by external bodies.
* it takes 15% of income so it has an incentive to generate as much income as 
possible
* it is a total monopoly - there is no other org that manages rights
* all the income goes to the publisher (and CCC). None to authors
* the restrictions on re-use are everywhere. Many publishers use CCC to charge 
the actual authors for reusing their own work in books, teaching etc.
* it is massively unjust to the Global South
* CC NC and CC ND licences are treated as effectively controlled by the 
publisher. NC does NOT prevent the publisher contracting with the author so the 
publisher has the sole right to charge for re-use. This mechanism prevents 
competitors charging. NC and ND are a means of enforcing

The process is legal. I have my own views on the morality and ethics of 
monopolistic charges which restrict re-use so lecturers and authors and 
libraries are frightened to use the scholarly literature. And I remain to be 
convinced that the Advisory Board is anything other than marketing.
But if you approve of the Robber-baron model of philanthropy - grow massively 
rich by monopolistic rent-seeking and then become philanthropic you may have a 
different view.




--
"I always retain copyright in my papers, and nothing in any contract I sign 
with any publisher will override that fact. You should do the same".

Peter Murray-Rust
Reader Emeritus in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dept. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
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