goanet-digest        Wednesday, July 10 2002        Volume 01 : Number 4144



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    [Goanet] A Different Politician
    [Goanet] NEWS: Indian melody queen Lata Mangueshkar sings for Gen-Y composers
    [Goanet] Re:  Heroic lives
    Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Who's ready for cow's urine?
    Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Who's ready for cow's urine?
    [Goanet] ENCROACHMENTS ON HIGHWAYS
    [Goanet] HC ADJOURNS PIL TO NEXT WEDNESDAY
    Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Who's ready for cow's urine?
    [Goanet] FEATURE: Frogs, not just noisy creatures you hear in the monsoons...

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:29:46 +0530
From: Goa Desc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] A Different Politician

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A Different Politician
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Goans for long have been on the look for a politician who is different.
Someone who will stand by principles and not be lured by power and greed.
In the Cortalim MLA, Mathany Saldanha, Goans have probably found one such 
politician.

Here is a man who has come into power the hard way as he fought
unsuccessfully many a electoral battles before he finally made it to the 
Assembly.
He has not fallen prey to the bait of ministership, something which is almost
unthinkable in today's politics. His statement that you don't have to be a 
minister
to serve the people could be a lesson for our power hungry politicians.

It goes without saying that we shall hear a lot from this upright and
straight-forward politician in the years to come as he serves the people
of his constituency and the people of Goa at large. Goa would have done well
with more politicians like Saldanha. May the Almighty God guide and protect 
him
as he starts his innings in the Goa Assembly in the service of the people.

Adelmo Fernandes
Vasco da Gama

Letter in Response.
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:09:15 +0530 (IST)
From: Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] NEWS: Indian melody queen Lata Mangueshkar sings for Gen-Y composers

Indian melody queen Lata sings for Gen-Y composers

By Subhash K. Jha, Indo-Asian News Service    (byline mandatory)

Mumbai, July 7 (IANS) After singing for two generations of composers like
S.D. Burman in the 1950s and 1960s and his son Rahul Dev Burman in the 1970s
and 1980s, the Indian nightingale has moved on to Gen-Y music directors.

The voice that has ruled Indian film music fans since the 1950s has now
paired up with santoor maestro Shiv Kumar Sharma's son Rahul for "Mujhse
Dosti Karoge" and Himesh Reshammiya for "Sethu".

At the age of 73, legendary Indian playback Lata Mangeshkar continues to
conquer new peaks and her song "Andekhi Anjani Si" with Udit Narayan for
Rahul Sharma is already on its way to becoming a chart topper.

The other song she has sung for Rahul for the same album is "Jaane dil mein
kab se hai tu" with Sonu Nigam.

She matches note for note and at times even overshadows Udit and Sonu who
are half her age.

In fact both Rahul and Reshammiya are also in their 20s.

About how it feels like singing for composers young enough to be her
grandchildren, Lata says: "I do feel their reserve and nervousness. I wish
they would come forward and tell me where I'm going wrong in my singing.

"The new generation of composers tend to be a little reserved. I miss that
give-and-take of ideas with Rahul that was there when I recorded songs for
his father in 'Silsila' and 'Vijay'. But I feel composers like Rahul and
Himesh with their command of classical Indian music will revive the era of
melodies in Bollywood."

"She's a phenomenon beyond all phenomena," says Reshammiya, who like Sharma
belongs to the new millennium music-makers in Bollywood who have taken over
from Jatin-Lalit, Anand-Milind and Anu Malik who ruled the charts until last
year.

Reshammiya, who has helmed two hit soundtracks "Kyaa Dil Ne Kahaa" and
"Humraaz", says: "Lata is the only singer who links every generation of
composers since the inception of playback singing.

"My father, who's a well-known musician, had the opportunity to work with
her for almost four decades. Now it's my turn. It's a song that I've
tentatively titled 'Mujhe tumse hua hai pyar ke dil pardesi ho gaya'.

"It's a theme song and I felt only Lata can sing it for me. I was too
nervous to approach her, so I sent the recorded song to her home. My father
told her it's my dream that she sing for me. She liked the tune and agreed
readily.

"If I may say so, it's a divine melody which only she could do justice to."

Himesh's father Vipin Reshammiya is a veteran Gujarati musician and music
director.

The song is for the new Salman Khan starrer "Sethu", which is a remake of
the Tamil film of the same name that featured Vikram and Abhita.

It will be filmed on debutante Bhumika completing the ninth generation of
heroines  -- after Nargis-Madhubala-Meena Kumari, Nutan-Waheeda Rehman, Asha
Parekh-Sadhana-Sharmila Tagore, Mumtaz-Hema Malini-Jaya Bhaduri, Rati
Agnihotri-Poonam Dhillon, Sridevi-Bhagyashree-Madhuri Dixit, Karisma
Kapoor-Raveena Tandon and Kareena Kapoor -- for whom Lata has done playback.

Reshamiyya, who's recording songs for only select number of films, feels a
composer arrives only when Lata sings for him.

Rahul seconds that emotion. While Reshamiyya's self-proclaimed "mind blowing
melody" by Lata would be released by yearend, Rahul's "Mujhse Dosti Karoge"
track has begun its way up the charts.

Interestingly, Lata vies for attention along with pop queen Alisha Chinai in
the soundtrack.

Lata also does an upbeat, rabble-rousing medley of her evergreen hits like
"Jhooth bole kauva kaate" from "Bobby" and "Ajeeb dastaan hai yeh" from "Dil
Apna Aur Preet Parayi" in "Mujhse Dosti..."

- --Indo-Asian News Service

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:16:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Re:  Heroic lives

- --- "J. Almeida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> That is why examples of virtuous lives (in this world)
> are so encouraging to us. Please don't write about the
> other world (unless you want to), but do let us have
> some encouraging examples from this world (such as
> Mother Teresa's work) from time to time. I will be
> among those leading the applause for such encouraging
> pieces.
> 

Fred, Stop the presses ;-)  I am not interested in reading the heroic works of white 
people as if
people of color did not exist.  I have no business requesting you, but if I may - let 
us have
stories about people of color who are marginalized, sidelined and ignored, even by our 
Goans. 
Some of us Goans do not care to see the world through the works and eyes of white and 
western
people as if legitimacy meant white only.

Maybe a story on why 95+% of popes, cardinals, saints are whites or why miracles done 
by Blessed
Vaz are shelfed, and not recognized, and hence no sainthood while the fascist Opus Dei 
founder is
beatified.  If one is interested in truth (and really interested in truth and not the
holier-than-thou outbursts we have seen on these forums), then deal with these issues 
without the
excuses, without the apologies for the Vatican. 

Cheers,
George

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:31:08 -0000
From: "santoshhelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Who's ready for cow's urine?

- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The ancient Vedic medicine, which bagged a U.S. patent last week, is
>touted as the miracle cure for ailments ranging from skin disease,
>liver problems and obesity to cancer.
>
>The Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) developed
the >product containing cow urine distillate jointly with the Vishwa
Hindu >Parishad's (VHP) cow research centre in Nagpur.
>


This is a scam. There is no published scientific evidence for any
therapeutic benefit that is accrued from drinking cow's urine.
Obtaining a U.S. patent does not mean anything in terms of
establishing scientific legitimacy or effectiveness of any invention.
The U.S. Patent Office has already issued several patents for
worthless quack ESP (extrasensory perception)devices. This is one more
example of ideological propaganda by VHP and the present Indian
government.

Cheers,

Santosh

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:12:40 +0100
From: "Tony Luis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Who's ready for cow's urine?

Not having a necessity to drink cow's urine due to a lack of benefit after
Santosh's confirmation should piss a lot of people off esp the claimants of
the new wonder drug!! (Only a joke or a pun!!!)

Regards,

Tony

- -----Original Message-----
From: santoshhelekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10 July 2002 17:35
Subject: Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Who's ready for cow's urine?


>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>The ancient Vedic medicine, which bagged a U.S. patent last week, is
>>touted as the miracle cure for ailments ranging from skin disease,
>>liver problems and obesity to cancer.
>>
>>The Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) developed
>the >product containing cow urine distillate jointly with the Vishwa
>Hindu >Parishad's (VHP) cow research centre in Nagpur.
>>
>
>
>This is a scam. There is no published scientific evidence for any
>therapeutic benefit that is accrued from drinking cow's urine.
>Obtaining a U.S. patent does not mean anything in terms of
>establishing scientific legitimacy or effectiveness of any invention.
>The U.S. Patent Office has already issued several patents for
>worthless quack ESP (extrasensory perception)devices. This is one more
>example of ideological propaganda by VHP and the present Indian
>government.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Santosh
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:54:51 +0530
From: "Joel D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] ENCROACHMENTS ON HIGHWAYS

ENCROACHMENTS ON HIGHWAYS : HC ADJOURNS HEARING ON PIL
TO NEXT MONDAY

The Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court comprising of Justice V.C Daga and
Justice PV Hardas today adjourned to next Monday the Public Interest
Litigation in the matter of refusal and inaction by the authorities against
persons who are usurping public land within highways and other roads in Goa
for business activities like stocking and sale of granite/ marble and cement
products in various parts of Goa.

The Petition has been filed by a Margao Citizen Sebestiao Rodrigues under of
Article 226 of the expressing concern with the rampant encroachment and use
of public areas within National and State Highways and other roads within
the state of Goa for business purposes of stocking and sale of
marble/granite articles and cement products (including polishing and cutting
of granite/marble) by private parties.

When the matter came up for hearing the Advocate General Atmaram Nadkarni
told the Court that all encroachments on Government Land along the Highways
have been removed. The Bench directed the Advocate for the Petitioner Aires
Rodrigues to file an Affidavit if there was any evidence to the contrary and
adjourned the matter to next Monday.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:53:38 +0530
From: "Joel D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] HC ADJOURNS PIL TO NEXT WEDNESDAY

APPOINTMENT OF PRESIDENT OF GOA ADMINSTRATIVE
TRIBUNAL: HC ADJOURNS PIL TO NEXT WEDNESDAY

The Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court comprising of Justice V.C Daga
and Justice PV Hardas today adjourned to next Wednesday the final hearing
on the Public Interest Litigation filed by Adv. Aires Rodrigues challenging
the appointment of Mr. Zoivonta Esvonta Porobo as the President of Goa
Administrative Tribunal.

Initiating his arguments when the matter came for final hearing today the
Petitioner Adv. Aires Rodrigues submitted that petition has been filed in
the interest of administration of justice and to see to it that the
provisions of the Constitution are complied especially whilst making
appointments to judicial posts and that the Petition is in public interest
and in the interest of legal fraternity of Goa.

Adv. Rodrigues further submitted that the appointment of President of
Administrative Tribunal could not have been made without consultation
with the High Court and that by doing so the independence of Administrative
Tribunal has been impaired and the confidence of the people in it and in the
judiciary stands shaken since the constitutional requirement of an
independent judiciary must apply to all institutions that administer
justice.

Arguing on behalf of the Goa Government Advocate General Atmaram
Nadkarni submitted that the whole issue was under the active consideration
of the Government and that a decision would be taken soon.
The Bench appointed Adv. M.B.D'Costa as amicus -curiae to help the Court
decide the matter.

Adv. Manohar S. Usgaonkar represented Mr. Zoivonta Esvonta Porobo.
Mr. Porobo has already been restrained from hearing or disposing any matters
except urgent applications.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:12:03 -0700
From: "Marlon Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Who's ready for cow's urine?

Unfortunately, getting a US patent is a bit of a joke. If one has the money and the 
patience, they are pretty easy to get. Paranoid US corporations apply for zillions of 
high questionable patents. In the silicon valley it is particularly bad because 
companies often give their employees bonuses for every approved patent, which 
encourages employees to apply for some really dumb and useless patents.

Anyway, back to the issue on hand, what is unsettling is the BJP's attempt to use 
science to validate its Hinduvta policies. Apparently, this patent of their only 
applies to our sacred "indian" cows. What a load of bull.

The Nazis used bogus science to propagate their racial theories to differentiate the 
so called Aryan race from the jews and the slavs. They also indoctrinated their youth 
with revised histories of their nation. They came to power amidst political dis-order 
and economic malaise and during the early stages actually delivered a stable and 
strongly growing economy.

This may sound like a worn record, but if one replaces the Nazis with the BJP and the 
jews with the muslims, the senario looks awfully similar in India. 

Marlon


- ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "santoshhelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:31:08 -0000

>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>The ancient Vedic medicine, which bagged a U.S. patent last week, is
>>touted as the miracle cure for ailments ranging from skin disease,
>>liver problems and obesity to cancer.
>>
>>The Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) developed
>the >product containing cow urine distillate jointly with the Vishwa
>Hindu >Parishad's (VHP) cow research centre in Nagpur.
>>
>
>
>This is a scam. There is no published scientific evidence for any
>therapeutic benefit that is accrued from drinking cow's urine.
>Obtaining a U.S. patent does not mean anything in terms of
>establishing scientific legitimacy or effectiveness of any invention.
>The U.S. Patent Office has already issued several patents for
>worthless quack ESP (extrasensory perception)devices. This is one more
>example of ideological propaganda by VHP and the present Indian
>government.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Santosh

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:37:46 +0530 (IST)
From: Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] FEATURE: Frogs, not just noisy creatures you hear in the monsoons...

Frogs, not just noisy creatures you hear in the monsoons... 

By Frederick Noronha

PANJIM, July 10: Aaron Lobo (22) simply loves frogs, but his girlfriend
isn't quite sure she loves the slimy little creatures.

"It's just a childhood fascination," says Lobo, who is doing his Masters at
the Wildlife Institute of India in Dehradun. Based in Goa now, he grew up in
Juhu, Mumbai, where he routinely kept pets in his childhood years -- whether
it was fish, a toad or a turtle.

"Now, I'm basically focussing on sea-snakes, and all 'herps' (short-form for
life-forms included in 'herpetology', or the study of reptiles). He's
planning a dissertation on the subject shortly.

Midweek, Lobo's led a 'Wild Goa' nature trail, taking along the enthusiasm
of over a dozen odd interested wildlife lovers and plans to check out frogs
in Goa's Porvorim area, a one time sleepy village and now suburb of
state-capital Panjim.

They choose the 8 pm to 9.30 pm slot on a new-moon night, and were headed
for Pilerne lake, another swampy area near Porvorim. 

"There's not yet a checklist of frog diversity available in Goa," Lobo says.

But the Western Ghats (the hilly tract along the west coast of the country)
is so damn rich that there must be a lot of endemic species," he said.

"There's always a chance of finding something new," says he. 

Goa and frogs have had a close relationship of sorts in this once
largely-rural but fast-urbanising small state. 

Each monsoons, after the rainy season breaks out here sometime in June,
field areas get carpeted with the croaking of frogs which arise as if from
nowhere soon after the first rains.

But most here have traditionally treasured the amphibians as a delicacy --
for the frog-legs. Each year, the Goa government issues a warning against
killing frogs for the table.

Cautioned one recent media notification: "Government of India has banned the
catching, killing and export of frogs. As frogs play a vital role in the
food chain of an eco-system, they greatly contribute to the ecological
balance of nature. Catching, killing and exporting frogs for meat
contravenes the provisions of the Wildlife Protection Act, 1972".

Lobo believes that awareness about frog-related issues is still low in Goa.

"Perhaps there's nobody (else) who specialises in frogs. Generally, the
smaller taxa is not thought of (as something worth studying). Snakes and
other bigger life-forms, perhaps excite the enthusiasm and are also feared
due to the venom they carry," says Lobo.

On the situation of killing frogs for frog-legs and meat, Lobo believes that
the situation in Goa is not "as bad" as it once was. "If captive breeding or
management is done, it might not be such a bad idea of harvesting it," says
he.

"Big bull-frogs come out only in the first few days of the rains. What is
bad is if they're caught before they complete breeding," says he.

But he points out that wider problems like global warming create
difficulties of their own. "Sometimes, the pre-monsoons come so early these
days, that after the frog eggs are laid, the whole area dries up (due to
lack of subsequent rain, affecting the frogs' breeding)," says he.

As he finished explaining, the small team seemed impatient. 

Their search would take them through rain-soaked paddy-fields. Participants
were forewarned: "Carry torches, rain-wear, etc. You might have to walk
bare-feet or with gum-boots." 

Gayatri and Salil Konkar were eagerly looking forward to the trip, while
Clinton Vaz of Margao says, "I'm actually more interested in fish, but this
is interesting too."

Harvey D'Souza and Neil Alvares, two enthusiasts from another wildlife
network that takes tourists for nature rides, called Southern Birdwing, are
all praise for Lobo: "Ever heard of birdsong? Aaron Lobo can identify frog
species by their calls!"

Lobo is one of the young wildlife enthusiasts who has emerged to take an
interest in recent years, which includes youngsters from the Green Cross
based in the North Goa town of Mapusa led by artist Nirmal Kulkarni and
Sunil, snake-catchers like Rahul Alvares, and others.

Lobo, who lives in Paitona, can be contacted on 412265 or email
[EMAIL PROTECTED] when not busy with his studies at Dehradun.(ENDS)

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