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--- Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> Tariq--
> 
> I stand by my statement.    Obviously there are others like you who do not 
> agree with the president's actions. The remarks were for their benefit not 
> meant exclusively for you although I could have expressed myself better.
> 
> We do live in a dangerous world as recent events in the Netherlands have 
> recently demonstrated (the murder of Theo van Gogh by a Muslim immigrant and 
> the arrest of eight islamic radicals--I am not making this up, it is 
> reported in the weekend WSJ).  And what was Mr. Van Gogh's crime?  He was a 
> radical libertarian, a champion of free speech who refused to be constrained 
> by taboos or social codes.   And the Netherlands prides itself in being a 
> liberal and tolerant country with no irons in the Iraq fire.   I can also 
> recall the fatwa against Salmon Rushdie because some mullahs didn't like his 
> book.   We have discovered AlQaeda terror cells in this country also.   


Wow! Its nice to know that the world get classified as "dangerous" only and only
when the Muslims are perpetrators. 

I think there is a word in the dictionary for that, it called B-I-G-O-T.



>I 
> reiterate, we have to stand behind our president in these difficult times 
> and  you should admit your statement that GWB should be president of 
> Afghanistan or Iraq was unnecessarily provocative and mean spirited, just as 
> my statement might have been to you.  Kerry didn't know whether he was 
> coming or going like a weatherwane, and the American electorate wisely saw 
> through it, despite enormous sums poured into his propaganda campaign by the 
> likes of George Soros, Michael Moore, etc.  And his purported support by a 
> majority of Arab/Muslims did not augur well for the war.  That is my 
> opinion.  You may not like it, but I am entitled to it and people on your 
> side could engage in namecalling--that is nothing new, when one runs out of 
> reasoned discourse, liberals usually bring out the vitriol. 


Please revisit the Goanet archives and reflect on where the name-calling came 
from.
>From my analysis, it was from some Chris Vaz. Do you know him?


>  If we had not 
> gone into Iraq, Saddam would still be in Iraq tormenting his people and 
> would be an incubator for terrorists with designs on this country.


And maybe, juts maybe, Sue Niederer's son would be alive. I say maybe, because 
he
could have been a victim of gun violence in this country. The latter since
Republicans refuse to entertain the issue of gun control.



> 
> I did in fact write at some length to you.  Probably got lost in 
> transmission  Shall try to retrieve it. However there was no apology 
> there--just the rationale for my action.


I really doubt that. 


> 
> If you can accept it, I shall agree to write "I despise Kerry" 200 times on 
> the blackboard!  I believe however it is now moot since GWB kicked Kerry's 
> butt real good!
> 
> I had also responded to your insinuations against Rush and O'Reilly thus: 
> There are no charges against these two, and at least in this country they 
> are innocent until proven guilty.  Perhaps it is  political vendetta for 
> their success as the circulation and viewership of the Old Media (NYT< 
> WP>CBS.>NBC>CNN>MSNBC) is on the slide and Rush and O'Reilly are cleaning 
> their clock!  We have been fed fabricated pablum for too long by the Old 
> Media and Rush and O'Reilly are a breath of fresh air and a dose of reality!


So are you claiming that Rush Limbaugh does not have a drug problem? Then why 
did
Rush Limbaugh apologize?

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3158206/

Are you also claiming that Bill O'Reilly did not engage in despicable sexual
comments? If so, then why did he enter into a settlement?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/20/entertainment/main650282.shtml

And did you read what the father figure of the moral right said?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html



> Lies of Moore--just listen to Mayor Ed Koch of New York and Sen. Zell 
> Miller, both Democrats.  Are they credible?   Both have declared him a liar! 
> Or view FAHRENHYPE 9/11  UNRAVELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT MICHAEL MOORE'S 
> FAHRENHEIT 9/11!    I do hope you keep up with the news regarding
> the others...


Please take the time to point out exactly what was a lie. Don't push this off 
on the
remarks of someone. Stick to the facts!



-Tariq



                
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