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http://www.goanfoods.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Mervyn Lobo writes on Wed, April 12: > > You must be aware that China executes at least 8,000 > people every year. All those executed have had a > fair trial with the defence lawyers being paid for > by the State. I am told that the second biggest > supply of organs is from US prisoners on death row. > Again, the US govt provides those accused of crimes > with a lawyer when the accused does not have the > money to pay for one himself. > Mario observes: > Here is another excellent example of why I can objectively describe Mervyn Lobo as one of the most virulent among the small cabal of anti-Americans on Goanet. How else can one describe someone who is supposedly educated but can deliberately compare the totalitarian Chinese legal system, which executes about 8,000 convicts each year according to him, many with no right of appeal and within minutes of being convicted, with the independant US legal system, which has executed 1004 persons from 1976 to 2005, for an average of 35 per year? In the US, the government paid appeals last an average of 12 years nationwide and 20 years in some states, to ensure the convicts are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. > Then he has the gall to say that "he has been told" that the second biggest source of donated organs is "... from US prisoners on death row." Apparently, according to this allegation by Mervyn, the Americans don't even wait until US prisoners on death row are executed. > I don't know whether the Chinese harvest the organs of everyone they execute. In the US the convict would have to volunteer their organs for donation. Since every convict would not volunteer their organs and some may be disqualified for various diseases, we are down to a relatively small number of organ donors from the US capital punishment source. Hence, to cite this as the second largest source of organ donations is patently false. Cuba is a more likely higher level source. > In a previous post, Mervyn made the following equally absurd comment in response to the calls by some Goans that the murderers of Fr. Eusebio be executed, "...Goans becoming more like the Americans. All they need is for the suspects to be caught, charged with a crime and then executed. There, alls well. Sort of reminds me of the US activities in Iraq and Afganistan." > According to Mervyn, in America, "...suspects to be caught, charged with a crime and then executed." No acknowledgement of the lengthy trials, no mention of the legal standard that they be found guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" or the lengthy appeals paid for by the government. > This then somehow reminds Mervyn of US activities in Iraq and Afghanistan, where innocent civilians can be killed in the crossfire, as in any warfare, but are never targeted by the US forces, and where 50 million Muslims have been liberated and are being helped to form self-sustaining democracies after decades of oppression by brutal and misogynist Muslim tyrants. > Is there any way that such repeatedly false sentiments can be blamed simply on ignorance? I don't think so. > _____________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)