--- maurice dmello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Very interesting observation.  Well, 9/11 was
> initiated by Al Qaeda, most likely the tab was 
> picked up by one of the west's staunchest allies in 
> the Middle East, and so the west went to war...who 
> to get rid of?  easy target, Iraq.
>
Mario responds:
>
Maurice,
Are you aware that Iraq's previous brutal regime
pre-emptively attacked Iran, then Kuwait, with a loss
of life estimated to be about a million.  Have you not
heard about Saddam's torture chambers, rape rooms, the
gassing of 5,000 Kurds in one day in Halabja, and the
mass graves with an estimated 300,000 skeletal remains
with bullet holes in their skulls.  
>
Secondly, Iraq had no connection with 9/11.
>
Are you aware of the entire 12 year run-up to the
regime change in Iraq, led by the UN, starting in
1991, before George Bush was elected to anything.  It
has all been discussed before on Goanet, and you have
a lot of catching up to do. 
>
Why do you think the Sunnis and Shia are attacking
each other in Iraq instead of taking the opportunity
of Saddam's removal to live in freedom and democracy? 
Do you oppose freedom and democracy for Muslims in the
middle-east while living in freedom and democracy
yourself?
>
Maurice writes:
>  
> Israel has a free hand, if it kidnaps storms
> prisons and takes as prisoners even elected 
> officials, all those are terrorists, so no 
> problem.  If one of their soldiers is captured, 
> they want him released on humanitarian grounds!!  
> This politics is hard to understand.  
>  
Mario observes:
>
Perhaps it would be a lot easier to understand if you
knew that the Arabs have been actively trying to
destroy Israel ever since it was formed in 1948. 
Nothing is going to change until someone makes them
accept the existence of Israel and stop trying to
"wipe them off the map".  Did you know that the PM of
Iran said that Israel should be "wiped off the map"
just a few months ago?  What would you do if someone
wanted to wipe you out?
>
Maurice writes:
>    
> The leadership of these anti-national elements
> should be eliminated, and this does not require war 
> but a good planning and action.  Remember Indira 
> Gandhi, she took a ruthless action and with the
> surgical military operation, the problem was 
> solved, though she lost her life. 
>    
Mario asks:
>
Maurice, OK.  I agree.  Let's not go to war with the
terrorists.  Instead, let's eliminate these
anti-national elements with planning and ruthless
action.  I hope you will now agree with me.  I'm for
whatever works, and you can call it whetever you like.
Now, who do you think should implement the planning
and ruthless action?
>



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