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Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Sunith, Your observations on the subject were well written and the facts enlightening to us. About the students in Canada, I can endorse the same situation as prevailing in schools of higher learning in this country. What I say is anecdotal, gained from experience in two of my children currently studying in Universities themselves and the views of many other students with whom I have talked and asked opinions firsthand. Since it is subjective it may be with variance with the facts in some matters, but it is generally true. One problem I think, starts at the guidance stage itself. There are trained counsellors at school and university, but they are more focused in getting the student to be well adjusted to the system and not in career guidance per se. For example rather than taking the student in a career direction that suits temperament and talent, they talk about what is available to them. There are other resources for this and the counseller would well spend time in explaining what the outside world will look like if a certain path is taken, about which the student is not much aware of as this information is not available in any brochure. The Canadian education system after high school gives a choice for either University or Community College. Classically one was academic and resulted in a degree and the other, a certificate or diploma but the college system has evolved considerably in the past few years. They are cheaper, more hands-on, job oriented and in touch with industry and the corporate world. They have introduced programs for professional certifications where it is possible to get say a CMA (Certified Management Accountant) or a CFP (Certfied Financial Planner) which are recognized as much more advanced than mere degrees. Universities have realized that they are being left out of the job race and are now integrating some of their studies with those of these College programs. In fact some Universities have even allowed these colleges to integrate their courses with University degrees and maintain brick and mortar building within their campuses. At the professional level, there are restricted seats in the reputed institutions, so many brilliant Canadian students go to the US where the opportunities for enrollment are much more and so is funding via scholarships. After finishing their internships there, they return home as mostly their US studies are recognized here at that professional level. The Corporate and professional world is so far dominated by the Caucasians (read Anglo and Scottish ancestry) who zealously guard their turf and erect glass ceilings. However in the major cities university rolls are filling with second generation Canadian immigrants be they Chinese, Indian, or East European. This will undoubtedly change the demographic in the higher echelon of jobs in the next 10 years. These kids are not cleverer than the Caucasians. They just study harder, have a higher motivation to succeed and want to break the existing glass ceiling which they will, once the old boy school tie network crumbles with attrition. Mathematics (but not sciences) in Canada at the lower and early years of high school, levels are woefully backward, but that may be I think since the schools are too pre-occupied with getting them to think and logically figure and get their brains in a problem solving direction rather than get them to actually solve the problems. But this helps them cope with the sudden expectations of high mathematical standards that are required of them at the last years of high schools and in Universities. At that level they are undoubtedly on an average basis, superior to Indian students at the same level. Hope I have not been too boring in enunciating my thoughts on your question. By the way have you heard of Indra Nooyi a Madras University Alumni gettin the top job at Pepsi on the basis of her ability to determine strategy alone, without having any operational experience in the company? TIME says she is now the most powerful woman corporate figure in the world. Regards, Roland. On 10/18/06, Sunith Velho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Selma and Roland, > > In all probability it is true that the students from Harvard and Yale failed > the IIT entrance exam. This does not reflect on their intelligence but just > on the extremely wide scope and high level of the IIT-JEE exam. My friends > who got into IIT started studying for the entrance exam(separate from normal > school studies) 5 years beforehand i.e. when they were in the eight grade. I > have studied and answered that exam and I can tell you that it is extremely > hard. The level of Physics Chemistry and Maths is more suited for graduates > in those streams than for highschool students. > Maybe you could shed some light on the situation of young graduates in > America and Canada. > > Regards > Sunith Velho > > > -- Roland Francis -- Roland Francis _______________________________________________ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org