Dear Selma,

This above debate took shape, as according to me, because of the 'Opinionated' column by Adv. Antonio Lobo in Herald on December 1, 2010. I wanted to watch this debate today morning at 2 p.m. I couldn't because of non-availability of the cable signal. I have watched the same at 10.30 p.m. and I am here at the keyboard to give my opinion on this debate. And I happen to see this post of yours.

First, you have not been born after no Liberation. You have been born after a 'war of pure invasion for the purpose of annexation' . Cleofato Coutinho as well as Flavian Dias both agreed that it was inevitable that Goa would be a part of India. Both have been proved wrong by Adv. Lobo who has said that Goa would have been an independent country within a period of 10 to 15 years after 1961 if Nehru did not order Operation Vijay against all previous promises made that Goa's unique identity would be preserved. If that was so, then opinion poll of 1967 was a gross affront on Goan Identity, seeking to wipe off Goans completely. How come?

Flavian Dias is a bluff of a mergerist who does not have any Goan identity. He is a Marathi ganthi who wanted Goa merged with Maharashtra. I don't
understand  how he was included  on this debate at all.

Clefato has been harping on the point that Goa did not have electricity prior to 1961. I say that if Goa was independent country, today Goa would be solar powered. I am challenging anyone to contest this statement of mine. Goa having electricity which is tripping hundred times a day is no electricity at all. We would be better off with kerosene chimney lamps, instead ;-))

You say that Portugal is an emasculated country. Yes, I do agree with you there. But then this emasculated country had colonized places half way across the globe. That, according to me is something. Whereas, India was not India until 1947 and this mess up of small kingdoms didn't step outside a furlong away from its homeland except in the mythology to Sri Lanka which is hop-skip and jump way.

Today we see what India is. A big 'chor' nation with half of its wealth having been salted in Swiss Banks and people dying of hunger with food grains rotting in the godowns which even rats refusing to eat..

OK, the Portuguese were in Goa for 451 years. But Goans were running this place with very few Portuguese in the administration, except for a few hundred troopers.

Goans such as Cleofato Coutinho and Flavian Dias should be hanged by their 'bees' for saying that Goa would be better off merged with Maharashtra.

I say that Adv. Antonio Lobo has proved himself to be the GOAN PATRIOT, after all.
And I am perplexed as to where or why he was hibernating all these years.

Cheers
floriano'
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

PS 1: I am not particularly fond of the Portuguese and I am not seeking to defend them. But I am not particularly fond of India either which claims to have liberated my Goa. Liberated my bloody foot.

PS2: Lambert Mascarehas, the great Goan octogenerian freedom fighter has admitted today in his write-up in the Navhind Times that Naguesh Karmali and Co. are fakes for wanting to wipe out the 451 years of Portuguese presense in Goa. This could be the best sense that he has made after all these years 'Sorrowing Lies My Land' notwithstanding. And I appreciate it very much, the sense I mean, not the sorrowing.... etc. . Just yesterday, when I had called him to get a bearing on Flavian Dias, he had said that he has written for Navhind Times for today's edition and asked me to read it. Now I know why.






----- Original Message ----- From: "Carvalho" <elisabeth_...@yahoo.com>
To: <goanet@lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Prudent Media debate " PORTUGUESE RULE V/S INDIAN RULE"


My God, what are we doing with our lives? For a person like me born after
Liberation, Portugal is an emasculated South-West European power overlooking the Atlantic. I have no interest in it, politically or economically. I vaguely know
where it is geographically.

Are we Goans walking backward with debates about the Portuguese v/s Indian? This
is like a hideous nightmare of Catholic buffoonery and right-wing Hindu
intellectual bankruptcy. Between these two divides, Goa is seriously shot in the
foot.

Good luck to yea all. I advise all Goans to invest in a good paddle. You'll need
it to save yourself.
Selma



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