Hi Marlon, Basic apple and orange comparison, and reasonably polished rhetoric coming from you. I applaud your concern and the distinction "Why implement automation and industrialization when thousands of workers could be gainfully employed instead?'
I am not telling anyone to follow Gandhi, and mentioned NAM 'cause its a marker of Indian righteousness. The use of the word "did" in the following sentence should not trip anyone, "He did reject the factory model of industrialization, and rather preferred that a machine be kept idle than a man/person." The word "did" was not inserted to proclaim my position but to point out how he -- Gandhi saw things, so that distinction must be maintained -- not brushed aside. Now about Goanet: Considering, the about 200 who say/post a perfunctory hi or a bye on Goanet -- the number 10,000 is staggering and celebratory. But again in the same analogous vein, one does not expect them all to comment -- although it would be something if even say half of them were to share even one aspect of their lived existence -- a recipe here, a proverb there, a link someplace else. Hope these distinctions are reasonable, ++++++++++++ venantius j pinto > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:02:14 -0800 (PST) > From: marlon menezes <goa...@yahoo.com> > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > <goanet@lists.goanet.org> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] misfired price blame > > From: Venantius J Pinto <venantius.pi...@gmail.com> > He did reject the factory model of industrialization,and rather preferred > that a machine be kept idle than a man/person. This I deeply believed from > the time I was around 20 that this should have been the model for India, > Not > having NAM and then chucking it all away. It is know that Gandhi preferred > that money be in the pockets of the factory owners rather than extra money > in the hands of the workers. > -- > Venantius, > You do make a lot of sense. Why implement automation and industrialization > when > thousands of workers could be gainfully employed instead? With that in > mind, why > don't your trash your computer and hand deliver your reply to me and the > other > 10,000 (Fred, please provide latest count) or so netters. I guarantee that > you > will be fully employed with this task and I will also pay you the several > fractions of a paise it currently costs me to receive my messages > electronically! Please do not rely on any mechanized form of transport to > deliver me your reply. > > From: Venantius J Pinto <venantius.pi...@gmail.com> > Also when we look at the license raj etc., it helps to note that Mrs Gandhi > took advice from industrialists -- right so, but who in the first place > could not imagine the idea of competition, Most of them simply could not > see > other ways of operating and furthering a country like India. > --- > This is false. At the onset of independence, the very few large scale > private > enterprises that existed was taken over by the government - it was after > all > decreed that the government will occupy the "commanding heights" of the > economy. > The takeover of all banks, the airlines, energy and the steel industries > are > some examples that come to mind. > > > > From: soter <so...@bsnl.in> > It is only when we withdraw from the 'Mad rush' which Gandhi spoke about, > that will we be able to see the contradictions in what is called progress. > When we produce for profits that the rotting of food begins, when we > produce > to sustain ourselves we can enjoy every bit of it. > --- > Is Soter suggesting we all revert to an agrarian lifestyle and spend 12 > hours a > day tending to our own vegetable patch gardens? I thought they tried it out > in > the Great Leap in China and apparently folks in N.Korea are still > perfecting > this model, without much success. You may be shocked to know that even not > taking into account currency/PPP factors, much of the basic necessities > such as > food and clothing are cheaper in absolute terms in N.America and it is in > India. > I suspect the concepts of efficiency and productivity are alien to you. If > you > don't believe in such concepts, I suggest you join Venantius in hand > delivering > your reply to me. Just so that I can recognize you, make sure you grow a > beard > and wear a non-dyed loin cloth when you come. > > Marlon