I get it: such structures, symbolism (if at all), but in humor am pushing the envelope towards "various ways of seeing."
Haddanchi baim https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=430593167369&set=a.430592607369.202283.605552369&type=3&theater +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Btw, I am now going to respond broadly and bring in other parallels. Depending on taxation possibilities, screwing up the status quo, leave alone sentiment, etc., the government will in all probability take a look at the haddancheo baim (Bone wells) under whatever guise, and then on Goanet it gets in to the ultra, ultimo ratio regum. Its just that the latter, (the) last argument of kings now drop out of the mouths of politicians in various hot metal (see as diktats) compositions. But we can in a philosophical vein, use the haddachim baim as a way of expressing contemporary woes, but it belongs in Goa. Perhaps with some basic cosmetic changes. Remember there was a time when people went concrete and changed the face of Goan villages. On the other hand one could have brought about a balance. In fact there was nothing for even the govt to provide plans in a modular way that people could use to build their houses/ have their houses built--taking into consideration lay of the land, etc. Imagine in our society and with all the money at the governments disposal, including just perhaps a few rich villages--that we cannot afford crushes, pulverizers to crush the bones, instead of torching them and worse with petrol. The bit about modernity has to always be towards collective gain. Its a philosophy of course, that needs temperance. Most do not get it, and do not wish to. The question comes up--what do they do in those trips (I do not wish to denigrate by calling them jaunts). I mean other than the shit-eating grins. Anyway. See some pics on FB, Time and Place. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.430592607369.202283.605552369&type=3 I think you really mean: no rest for the living. The environmental side has complex connotations and denotations. It truly means an amity, or friendship between people and place--a relationship. In a village scenario it could range from, Children and play, Housing issues of battered women, public lands, consumption of public fruit that falls outside property, etc. But to do all of this one needs people of a certain mien, posture, values. But Goa was pushed in other directions and certain hardships were chucked away for the sold idea of progress. These things take time as it did in other countries. But they managed to salvage a lot while also loosing a lot. With Goa its practically out of the question. + + + To your point about the Hindus getting it right--even there changes are taking place. I do not wish to clarify though. Clues can be picked up from various events. They happen in small ways. Here is the smallest and not really a change, but an unwillingness to let something be (and dealt with casually): So we are all there for Kiran and Genevieve’s wedding in NY. The priest asks for her name and say OK, tumi Janvi. (Ok, you will be Janvi). Don't tell me calling Genevieve by name could have wreaked the syllable structure! It would not have, it that was a fear. Perhaps the bhot had another wedding to attend to. The Christian ethos is completely different, and I say this as a Hindu Christian. But one can say, is that the educated, well off Hindu managed to have the cake and eat it too. And others amongst them learnt and were able to emulate as also taken in the folds, even drivers, office-assistants. They in turn have been beacons to the yet others not so well off. Such a parallel has not truly taken place in the Christian community despite the clout of the Church and other institutions. In that sense Christians are horribly modern in that you truly are left to stand on your own. Make it or sink. As time goes by, in about 40-60 years a different modernity will be ushered by them unto them. It will have in it what works centrally and positively to a particular sense of modern. But it will be forgotten, as many things are THAT EVEN THEY (my friends) stood and learnt and saw from the backs of many of us. I will never forget this and know it at close hand. My years growing up were not in vain. ++++++++++++ venantius j pinto Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:00:46 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mervyn Lobo <mervynal...@yahoo.ca> > > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > <goanet@lists.goanet.org> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Unrest Eternally ! > > > Venantius J Pinto wrote: > >Also, people here although they may not say it (if they are even aware), > > >prefer a small urn (certainly sounds better that its synonyms). Now > >suddenly ones gets into symbolism and the handful of ashes stands for the > >whole. Avois, a hologram of the mind! > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > VJP, > The scattering of the ashes is only ceremonial. It is the final farewell. > It serves a purpose.? > > My sweet ancestral village of Colvale has a graveyard that measures 50 ft > by 75 ft. Every Colvale Christian of the past 500 years has been buried, > and dug up there. The dug up remains are then thrown into a well. These > remains are then doused with petrol and set on fire every x number of years. > > On the environmental side, that tiny graveyard has served the village > well, conserving the land available for growing food. On the spiritual > side, there is no rest for the dead as we are assured that they will be dug > up, and shifted, in three years. > > In this regard, the Hindu's have got it right. One ceremonial departure, > and then nothing more to contend with. > > Mervyn > > > ------------------------------